Mar 11, 2017|
Way more NFL moves today...chatting about Redskins and
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Would be bad for ratings possible Cleveland steamers we let us not quite a bit ticked Epstein is now the esteemed steamers now it's an honor to be to be on that payroll right down. So what does the timbers like the timbers. Are big deal. But. There's so much on the other side the up that. Of the people that don't like the timber stock. That we just in need servicer alien and it's kind of the mean I don't know what the hell we would. Talk about the whenever we do what their Frontline whenever we do the feedback is like ten to one's editor yet people don't like it just not a term they don't like. Frontline the in until strikers there is a strike. That's and other striking gap and one in the four words yup they have those two of the midfield that's another term that's correct goalie. Technically goalkeeper human being. And militant and liberal business school and don't forget about this on the pole I love the pitch yeah and other fans are fans are fun and I know this too it's not practice. It's trainee yep and you're not injured you're not at full fitness in a minute now that we have him playing well they're in good form. After playing poorly there in bad form maybe we should cover on a hot timber tucked in timbers would drop in C well I know that that frustrates a lot of I timbers folks who do listen to us. I'd say about them I'm open to an assist I don't really. I don't really follow among them much I don't think the MLS is a great league but. I get to that a lot of people right here love them but we the pretty met women we just don't talk like timbers I think our updates ends you know some other elements on the broadcast. Touch upon could do more. On it but. That's just our show and I think it would just help with the hosts of the show were into a book not the other one is in you are both big NFL fans. I run around about how much you like Seahawks talk. Yeah that you know at. Because we talk a lot of NFL here. General NFL we love the NFL watching NFL we cover the ascent of the NFL crick we talk a lot and just general college football too it's not yeah waged just actual we talk at all period right that the CR it's been a big deal for now the last five years and you know we hear from a lot of people down here in Portland. In Vancouver in the media area that we cover that they hip when we're talking about. Yeah like we did is dedicated Seahawks segment and get that feedback is more 5050 some people are the enjoyable we get in depth of another people it's like why are you. Talking about the Seahawks and on our Tomb Raider fans their time of forty niner fans there's the cowboy fan to just it's a transient and base. Demi looks known as the city is very eclectic when it comes to that. Well look everybody's got their opinion. We'd generally just keep that a little bit more. Generic Mendes more of NFL. The things that are going on the NFL not the silly CI a cynic but I will start this with a little bit of CR it's news to the absolute joke oh yeah. Yesterday on a one year deal and basically approve that deal. Yup and then now today. There they've got TJ Lang up there on. So you get a chance here to maybe spend some money on your offensive line in both of those guys would essentially be I mean you would revamp your car it's. By bringing in TJ Lang and enjoy local and Lange was it. We'll replay yet that's right it is very good he just was a little bit older and in would basically got priced at a at a Green Bay. Remain just and Green Bay lost their seder as wells agreement is going to transition on the profits in line. And this would be. CB a total departure that he hasn't spent a lot of money. All their offensive line in in urge local and eight million for just the one year. That's pretty decent chunk a change to spend on and on interior Roberts Wyman well and leg is gonna require a multi year deal. I just think I mean they kind of had. Kinda had to yeah it was so bad yeah last year you had to do something yeah and short term once you're one year deal whatever. Let's see if he can get to see if Tom Cable can turn him around. But if you add length you up all the sudden you do is you take an offensive line and it's a it's a little intriguing because to me it was by far. They'll most glaring thing wrong with Seattle last year I mean the run game was inconsistent on it in Oakland when Russell Wilson is beat up the guy was runner for his life and couldn't do it it was because you're not even a blind. There was the cheapest of leaking a couple guys plane to be honest would you did did not belong starting. In the NFL didn't. BM but it's you know the C arcs I think about this name. Reading about Lang and an unsigned length but now he's that you use up their visiting I don't know who else is in owning. But guys I read the lions were make in a are always more to its. While they get him and Joseph cool it's a good that's that's pretty solid I just think the CX done a really good job of staying in the window you know yeah. Nets in the damn good franchise it's they have done a very nice job since Pete Carroll and Schneider who have come narrative formed a partnership. Do they turn over their roster as much as anyone in the NFL and they've done a great job of building it with cheap young talent. And then got a pretty good job now transition into having to pay some of these guys. And look. That is an appreciation factor that people need to. To recognize with Seattle is they've had to go from. Having a very cheap young defense and a quarterback didn't cost him anything to paint these guys Earl Thomas got paid Michael Bennett got paid Richard Sherman got paid. A Russell Wilson got paid and you have had to make some tough choices there. And yet there are still in a window where I think they are one of the better teams in the NFL they are in the conversation. For that proverbial contender each and every year. But it's harder to do it now but it was a couple years ago because you've got to take into. Into account that the roster flexibility isn't there like it was because you've got some high priced talent now. Now and here's a text to wrap this up. It's guys who hate C Jackson bigger fan base and any other team here. It's the local team nearly two and half hours away would you say someone living in western Wisconsin should root for the Packers because Nolan Green Bay now. I think he's misunderstanding when talking about. What you root for or refer to how you want I don't care. There are a lot of Seahawks fans down here this is why it's kind of a it's a difficult one for us because there are lots yachtsman however there's a lot of people that there and yes that yes they're pull price of the timbers has yet to both. Really pull rising. Lot of them lot of a lot of people loved both. But this hidden the other side of it is. I mean you can listen judges to NFL yeah I mean at least cast a wider net not everybody BEU general NFL general. College he was to. But some people just like why Seahawks twice and why timbers liked him or it's amazing to see the feedback there's almost no middle ground if there you love it. Or you can buys that there Will Allen and this is that natural rival in their fans are. Someone brought up the you know the whole Wisconsin in being two and half hours away but the difference is that they are your regional teams here there's such a rivalry between Portland and Seattle. That it's it's it's different there's an inferiority complex. With that city up there in the and so there's a lot of people they just won't. Root for anything that's based that is elegant they've got an NHL team. You can't convince me that a lot of people important would just naturally adopted because it's the closest NHL city and I just I don't think that's the case and I think they're really hard to like it's in musher in Seattle yeah I think earners in the same way. It's how many how many people here that's their teens you know there is a good chunk of people when the Mariners are good catch mayor or fever and I think they they said that what 1013%. Of their total attendance comes from. South was washing her comes from Portland but you know there's a lot of people bit. Hate mariner baseball here they just have no interest in it because again it's not their team play UN diplomacy our stuff for you go. Now we're gonna go to the other stuff that's going on the NFL today Noah and we'll see what happens to because. If they if they do wind up getting TJ Lang and Joseph cool one of them would would move on play tackle not sure which one. I'm guessing maybe Elaine. But both those guys came in the league as tackles. And you've got if Freddie who can just embrace it. Who you figure will be you're right guarding in your senator. And so you replace your left guard with either Joseph local or leg and then the other one would bump out and play one of the tackles. So someone asked about that and CEO both of those guys in theory capable of moving out to play it tackle if TJ lane does end up signing here. That creates a log jam in the interior someone will will bump out all right. Who is being rumored for the Redskins GM job quite an interesting name and what's going on Kirk cousins all the other moves that have been that is well next on the fan. In time when rising insert god 1080 the offense. All right so the Redskins need GM can they fired Tom McLaughlin. Yeah and hired a guy with a known drinking problem and then fired him because and every team Muslim people are claiming that. I don't horse nears they just fired him because they didn't like him you know what though the guy did a good job yeah did a good job put together and they are totally smeared mud all over his face out. The tire tracks are. Quite evident across his body and I don't know what to make it there because what he did a good job and everybody around the league like team and you know you look at the Redskins they've been pretty good and what is the last couple years ago yeah so. You know it's kind of sucks and haven't what have a with him he has I don't know if he said anything yet. Amount of return of but his agent has denied the drinking problem the Redskins and he has a history of that he has a real question yes the guy. He's been in and out of rehab the guy's a drinker and the guy has an issue with it the question here is did that lead who. Problems with the Redskins or did they just. Had they dispute and they're using this is an excuse I hope it's not that case if you really that low. Did to use someone's past like that if it's not an issue to smear him in firing with cause to save a couple bugs. That's like that's about as bad as it gets energy would you put that past the redskin none at all I wouldn't I don't know what to believe because you're hearing from from. Each side did it's it's one thing or the other Tino and it is. What this is malicious fecal distribution or maybe it's I'm BP guys are drug I don't know. Yeah. We'll see if DC I understandable yeah exactly I tend to believe the Redskins are thrown him under the does because he's done a good job now but you know it's probably a little bit about the maybe he did have a a drinking problem got in the way but he still did a good job anyway by the new rumor. The hot rumor is that Mike may shock yeah of the NFL network is a candidate. To replace and this is kind of I think outside the box me seen the warriors in the NBA hired GM. Steve Kerr was brought him when no coaching experience he was an analyst and I'm tending John Lynch was brought in as a GM without much John Elway. Former player whereas Friday without much experience we remember a media guy am. Doug Williams by the way is is not in charge of the Doug Williams is involved a lot the redskins' decision making process now. You had to see the job title and what do you do initially and title is that he's involved in that. Who's the guy John how ledger yeah I'm hired by the Memphis Grizzlies to be like and analytics guys yen that. I don't think that our government and male hockey is a these guru he's easy target talent evaluate. Yeah he's a guy on NFL network that's he's always time energize and in the forties. EA is kind of cranky yeah he's real intense that Mendocino has done like he's a really good watch when it comes to draft stuff yep he does his homework. He's he seems like the tide that hates everything but football. Which probably made is good makes him a good general manager right he seems like your miserably humid here but he's also the guy who wants said that John team Mendes are reminded him of Ron Amadon. Oh look we all. This is one of those times when you go back and you look at what you thought about a guy good or bad when you do that for a live behind him and you have to comment on every. Potential first or second that it hurt him you're gonna swing and missing a core consumer you we have I would love to know. What each GM. Spot thought of all these guys have known mean it sounds like Jerry liked. Yeah like I have man's Lotta people like man's outlook I think Josh McDaniel was one of the smartest guys in the NFL. And he that idiot hitched his wagon to 1020. Is is lay guy can limit this guy will know you can't get your ass fired endeavor for you web backs new England and hopefully now you Smart does Iran play and I didn't win a playoff game yeah. Appears and he made the play in the playoff game in they beat that what does this Steelers look back and like we lost the path that guy. Agree you Kathleen Katie meet we lost to Tim Tebow in the gall darn playoffs then. By the way they play New England his former team the week after that I'm on that team they took him to do which. They did but hey give him a little but a credit. No they won the game no I won't Clifton. Well they want Nene they want like seven and seven of Nader 89 with Tebow. But they scored like fourteen points a game they have like near teach fevers and Tebow fever they did have Tebow fever him that skip Bayless still has its skip Bayless I don't think I think he gets an erection anytime some of exempting Tebow. I think he physically gets a wrecked at the mention of Tim Tebow the Boehner has swamped yes yes it has. I like this week from some many Redskins guy who said may knock his GM may doc I really like this Sam Arnold kid Bruce Allen that's great mid eighty when the highs and Michael Mark Jackson well no but that doesn't Matt Allen shut the F up and tell you right now on the Mark Jackson. It is agency if I may not I wouldn't touch that job I know he may want. It's an NBA GM Ambien from us and Indians it's his life whatever but. If you're. That well respected around the league that people look at you for front office positions really were not go bear work the last guy just got railroaded in in how you get a deal with Dan Schneider. The work I'm just saying. If you're not getting this sniff from anyone else this like that Y eighty when takes the reader yeah. I went was only out well yeah maybe your only option there's only so many of these and it also depends on the money. But you don't jump on Sula took the 49ers job in knowing that he would be fired in two years I got fired in one. But you know white took the job because they gave him eighteen million dollars regardless of when he gets fired. Severe Mike may doc I don't know what he makes the NFL network but I'm I'm sure it's a couple hundred grand. But if the Redskins a roll up and say hey how about three million a year for four years and and that's guarantee no matter what you. Well first of all he makes more that you have on the short BI I get your point. Yeah it's like Al did have taken them taking the money yeah. And if it did if it doesn't work out I go back to the NFL network and I sit on my twelve million dollars I guess Adam chapter cities friends or Jay gruden. On any goes way back with Bruce Allen which is why he's candidate like he's yeah he's got those particular relationships. So I am now. Teams like Bruce Allen dance center call the shots anyway so now her for. It's the redskin organization and by the way they will have focus cousins and left cousins EU think cousins likes him nodding cousins is gone next year money likes me out. It's like a save place save cousins play now either he signed the tendered and signed it. So what does that mean. He gets 24 mil. They can trade area our season's first season they can trade him. They still have January 15 her excuse me July 15 the sender long term deal. But every report says that cousins won't sign a long term deal that he's just gonna play this out and see what happens next here. And then you go into the next season with. And basically no leverage you can franchise tag and you can transition tag him. And trailer rating and work at a trade then bit. He's just decided before you can trade him. Basically cousins has a lot of leverage now on Washington if he doesn't wanna be back there he doesn't have to. The year basically you've got a year to convince cousins that he's your long term answer there and did to repair. You know this relationship and I'm sure cousins is probably pissed. That they still don't think enough of them to give my long term deal now on the plus side he will live made 44 million dollars the last two years and I think that goes a long way to. You a soothing some hard feelings. 44 million dollars now that's a lot of money yes its eighth year he's mingle them if you view it as. Two years guarantee money it's one of the richest contract ever given out in NFL history. If you were to say like if they sign him to a two year 44 million dollar a year count two years 44 million dollars 44 million guaranteed. It would be one of the lower gas deals in NFL history if you're in your car. Don't pull over. But pullover listen closely huddle up. If I had told you then. Six years ago 2011. And I am now what year is Kirk cousins draft seniors RG three's so it's probably five or so years ago. If I told G it. Look and see when he won that 2012 the attitude doesn't twelve or five years ago okay summit on the safe for years ago 2013. Kirk come employee assigned a deed to get a tea. Kirk cousins is going to get what would amount to one of the biggest. Deals in NFL history in four. I mean you'd think I was insane like you'd lock me up right yes you would because I told you that before. 2000. Yet the 2015 season people you'd still be like your smoking crack. He was that's what happened I don't love sportsman's. And he was think about what they gave up for RG three and adores her last couple has said it was date be franchised the they mortgaged the future to go get RG three. They gave up to state asked on a picks to go get them. In the fall that same year they drafted RG three date hurt they took cousins as a flyer in the right now yeah. After giving up all have RG three they took Kirk cousins and RG three just got cut by the browns. And Kirk cousins is gonna make 44 million dollars of the last two years are you freaking kidding me right now music. And by the way that RG three deal will go down as one of the worst trades in NFL history. Now alone. Middle exit ramps and yet the rams haven't now the ram really benefited now you ram I think kind of screwed that up to that didn't they didn't turn it into enough. And Paula cowboys now and what elements of cousins leaves next year if they get they don't deal him. What if he leaves and they gave Jack squat in compensation for how stupid are you gonna look at your Washington. We can blame it on my Mac and let them know you gotta blame it on the bedrock is what you gonna do Oprah yeah I was all his faults is. I was drinking it wasn't our fault. All right I'm coming up next I'll love you more NFL deals today this Martellus Bennett and I'm wrong he's overrated. Do you like him it's like he's. Well do people really think he's great did is he not rated easy scanning is at least in my own. All right I originally cousins never was even first team all Big Ten and we don't yet. Everyone does and which can study was nothing about him that he was kind of a challenge. In his teammates and like him was neck 'cause now that was cut those guys on your idols Connor cut into an active. But yet cousins was second team all Big Ten as it one time he made the all Big Ten team in it was the second mom and now Kirk cousins 44 million dollars -- fist and let Bubba cousins I think was literally the worst pick in the draft. It is numbers many again we are egregious if they're just you know like why the hell. Do what how do you reconcile that if you're RG three you don't caddie. Feel you just feel like a giant tool and a failure. And I wanna. Piggyback off that with regards to Vince Young I commend next to so delicate you here's Mike. The chicken soup go. Very Martellus Bennett goes to. He need Packers. Yeah I have yeah. Gay actors let's make it's a decent ticket change because one of the better tight ends out there and there are the Packers usually are big free agency guys when they do. The stellar cast and that it would sin and and and peppers from assuming that Bennett. After pretty good year in New England got a decent chunk of change but I have not seen. The DT at OK and some of the other stuff. Mike I can use you here because I haven't. Been scouring like it did yesterday knee and you have but Julius Peppers gone back to the Panthers he is. No numbers on that deal but on the lot of these players who's tweeting pictures of themselves going to the new Tierra we haven't seen India and he contract details but I guess peppers you must went there before he signed the contract extension last timing Green Bay. That he's wanted to go backed Carol to seal Romo go to in scram yesterday with as little sappy message yes well and you had his plane times they are changing in the background. One that you had the in the suppose that hack of Jimmy drop below the end I guess like five in the most. Can someone hacker rob Lowe's mr. Graham. And basically treated goodbye and then everyone got all hot and bothered. And then they came out I'm like yeah I didn't post that because he's not on their legacies post that one time since the Super Bowl pose a fake account from no always is someone hacked his account he doesn't he has on behalf somebody just does he use it very out these closed at once is the Super Bowl. And so did try this one came out of like it was like four or 5 in the morning some bemusement there's no way that's a real and it turns out it it it was. Mike primers goes to the vikings and them eat I was he has dirty Miller I don't know. There's no guarantee there's no tackles no I think thirty million total I didn't see the guarantee. But there's just there's not tackles it is now they really really thin market for tackle so. Views you're gonna get paid if you're tackle because people need them you CNET Minnesota led. Khalil law are likely he'll win signed with Carolina did to join his brother which by the way that may be the worst contract that was handed out free agency aren't. 08 will. Rural so there's. A. The patriots have traded their first round pick number 32. Their third round pick number 103 to the saints for Brandon cuts amateur and their fourth round and let that I'm against the patriots are training their first round pick number 32. They're third round pick. For branding connects and the saints' fourth trumpet. A one and three for cuts in a four of them basically the three in the for a why should they be traded a first round pick for Primakov Veronica X. What I. If you're gonna tell me that there is a better receiver available at number 32 then then branding coax. So this makes sense to me New England. Clearly want to deep threat they don't have one in you've now got a guy that can stretch the defense. I thought to mean makes some sense for New England. Now the interest evening will be will he get a contract extension New England or is this a rental player cynic in me as one year left on the deal. I guess so I can live I would say and I really liked coax I think he's good. Look at issues but his contract situation it's so funny it's like. I well I was gonna say the warriors but it the lawyers didn't win the title so they go on Internet yep I think when you win the championship. You can go all. Do really need to give up a first for cooks you know because we just won the title even without aunt tipping their receivers. Andelman Ammann Dolan Chris hold in yet all I they had no receipt no really great receivers and they still want to imagine now though you have cokes and Hellman and Barack all the same team but he gave up a first. And I don't I don't the final pick him for about a week boxes or maybe you rental player he's got one year last assay and they get they're gonna pay him a ton of money they. How my guess is he it's he's gonna be in a restricted to Roxy you know what you would be restricted free agent so maybe they thinking keep him but I am assuming that cooks will command a pretty good chunk of change on the open market next year. He may be a one and done player there in New England but. This may be one of those were doing we just says we've got two to three years we're gonna put the best team on the field and we're gonna try to win right now. Even if you know even if the future it doesn't pan out forests. Or they were planning and they needed to deep threat and they just felt that coax was better than anything that was gonna be available. At number 32 if that's what they were targeted city in the first round were gonna draft a receiver. You know we're gonna get cooks as opposed to draft and one of these guys you know John Ross maybe if he falls back Darren. If you're gonna make that argument I'd rather Brennan cooks than John Ross the only thing is do I give him from more than one year are you gonna be willing to pay. What the market will will dictate form. Although I suppose you could put the first year. Tender offer on a next year even if he walks you get that first. You get that first round pick back so maybe that's what they're reviewing two is Yasser it's a one year rental boat will get that one back. If he leaves and goes somewhere else so like I guess from that standpoint maybe that's what new englanders think. All right interesting Tom Brady's got to be happy with our New England really had some in the could take the top off at the bloom yeah. Brady moss moss and I don't remember them having a deep threat may grow to be our treaty was probably their best deep threat going down the same. And whatever you think of of cooks in and supposedly did down Jiri had there in New Orleans. Breading cooks is eight absolutes but it is a deep threat and that's up in the doing dolphins has and well with all that intermediate. Stuff that they deal. It's certainly you can see why they wanted to guide book looks isn't just a deep throat cut and all the stuff but I don't goes to the governor and Sloc but he's not gonna be he's not gonna have to because you have so many others you look at their offense now when you look at the emergence of hoga and you look at Andelman. You look at. That they've grown gets healthy you're gonna have to too tight end sets again whiff Dwayne Allen who came over. From Indy and then you put that with a healthy gras the two headed backfield and some people still think there are not done tweaking moves in the back because of the backfield because. We your blood is it gonna be retained. That offense has a chance to do well not that it wasn't good at it offense appears to be scary good again and why did the saints wanna hear him. The say it's just they they needed to. They needed draft picks and they felt he was expendable because they have a really talented young receiving corps. So it's felt that here pretty unhappy there this past year he was unhappy he we kind of got overshadowed by Thomas the rookie and they weren't gonna probably pay him. I'm because their salary cap situation at the worst cap situation by the way in the NFL. They probably felt they were gonna be able the to re Cymer didn't wanna resigning. So this way you get a first round pick form back in return serve probably makes sense from fumble sides of things. All right and one of their notes the cowboys got Stephen I AM the former around beaver yeah he went down one year deal so. They need to they lost couple guys in priest who authored the deal line now. Now they need a mini cowboys. I think the cowboys got worse. Significantly worse this. We had to know they have their who have they signed him to sign any. They decided corner duels and the Quantico is that just sought and he wasn't I looked at his pro football focus ranking and he was like the 92 ranked I don't know who Los bedroom they just. They haven't same thing back cap situation they couldn't afford to keep guys and they really can't afford to go out citing. A right. Coming next. Aside let RG three. You said that he should feel when you sing. Ashamed. Right I think that he would when he looks at cousin he has to feel like a failure in in in in you'll see Jane. You'd ultimate tool. And a tool for the senate rule I would go with the tool because I guess when he came in there he was a B and bring in you probably still a zebra is still eat I think he got a raw deal you know this is part of what I wanna talk about. Is this disconnect between. Fans in just normal smells like well I mean yeah and guys like this that we see as failures but they're anything but failures they're just. It just. You know they got to the to the to the highest level and it didn't work out of work but they are far from Taylor's I think I find that fastening like Vince Young trying to come back. You don't like to see if now is he's doing this whole may didn't screen again think. And most fans alike black when were you agree on is great Texas but the long time ago I don't know what we'll talk about next on the fan. Prime time where thighs against duke on Hannity program. It's so this is meant to be opening a disk it was thing about the C today and it. And it flies today tee because RG three got yeah. And RG three inning he's done maybe somebody will give him a job as a back up fast everywhere. He's done and he was and then number two roughing Vince young's number three overall pick he's 33 known Vince Young to sign in the CF now. And he's doing this whole maintenance creating and paying them. And I just was thinking about bag on you know. That shines a light on. One of the biggest disconnects. Between fans and athletes besides the money which is just yet it's unease astronomical. But players and fans that get gap has widened and it's because most pro players whether they are Vince Young or Tom Brady. Believe that they are massive success in greater what they do and most fans. Think that players are bumps and no good at all it's like they're people out there that believe. Tony Romo sucks. Yeah Prado Tony Romo is 8990. About RG three and Vince Young. Tony Romo is a great quarterback yet not a good one Tony Romo or even agree he's been awesome but there are people. That think because of fear of the C ox gamer playoff failures the giants interception yet. That he sex in the way we talk about players. I just. You know it it struck me when you're like bombing in RG he's got to feel like failure I just don't know that guys do you think that landing did they think totally differently in this is why they shouldn't listen to Sports Radio. Because we talk more pats fans and we talk more as. Were relating to fans in the south fans talk and I can't imagine the that is any good ball. Four players in sports figures you know after your psyche. Well yeah it's like imagine if you like you are far from the Philly yeah but I might I feel that way though you feel like your failure yet. Like I really when people break up football player yeah like win win the NFL gets brought up and I know we do on the station but it. It to be honest and not that it makes me Nestor the uncomfortable but it whenever I hear like NFL player might he really got a key action like not. Really like it not a failure. I I feel like. I don't feel like I can claim that that was the success and I get it I made it further than 99.9. Percent percent of all people there you go but. I just look back at that and I don't view that in any shape or form as a success really that's so interesting to yeah I don't at all. And maybe I'm differ because it sure there's a lot of guys that to meet. But this is probably my dear you are different this is Media General I do you think a lot of guys think that they're better than they are always thought that was worse that wants. But that was really good in college and even that like even seen that I feel like a do you saying that will be you're them. I realized it right there are so many guys that I I think it probably just stands in so many guys that there was around thought they were so much better than they were. And I never wanted to be that guy that I I probably went the the other way yeah I think you India I think most guys are like yes they are they're like dude. Could ask for you yeah I mean I know I did not have a great career Vince Young but you know. You now. I'd I was success if you like you and I going and doing a national show is terrible example let's say we go get a national show. We flame out terrible but there is our week. Yeah villiers he's got a national veto you can technically say your failure. With that show but we got there yeah it's like. We built that have far from a failure RG three wouldn't you appellate RG 31 Heisman Trophy was the number two overall pick anyone a playoff game. XX really good Vince Young in approval. This made eight NFL Pro Bowl. And was I think he was rookie of the year in yet we view it as. Lesbian. Crappy Reggie Bush. Has played. What 1112 years if so a lot of you believe Reggie Bush is bloom is is of my bum or Mario Williams and you know writes I just think that's interesting that the icon that difference. Because the reality is none of these dudes that we know and talk about her failures villiers no just not but it's. But you know like this guy says he had to have expectations be affiliate opening failure technically. In your eyes Mia but if you look at the all encompass seen. Picture of somebody working their ass off to get to the NFL or get to the top 1% of anything now they are far from within or even if they get turf and fall flat on her face. Yeah it's still there and change the way I feel about it if someone asked me Howell full ball ended for me I would say in a colossal storm of failure and that's just and I don't think that will ever change in maybe it's a reason why I'm not. But if you come over to my house you will not have tried one thing in my house that would lead you to believe that I played so there's not a helmet there's not a Jersey. I don't where I don't Wear sweat shirts of teams that I played with their none of that stuff. I didn't like wearing do you use that makes me a little and company was like hey did you play there like I won't we're BYU stuff to work out. Because inevitably I get there hey did you play there you're a big guy in it just makes me. Uncomfortable it's just funny to me how fans talking a utility like washing the royals and I. Can the stock is now. Thought oh no you know he didn't sucking off Tim Tebow. You know Tim Tebow doesn't suck. Well maybe a peaceful but he's a pretty successful did Tim Tebow has pains me very very very success but he also needs to go -- mean maybe the exception. Led away sounds like your failure in football and in radio so again. Says there's no national show coming to fall yeah just a colossal failure. I am very average at two things. What's that. Well radio on the ball well and general human being and father. Then beat the but yet people forty of people against yeah. And you know I'm right its not its Apogee incorporated in the meaty part of the problem occurred not far behind not jumping ahead not Tony witnesses. I'm Betty Knight is hadn't thought about Vince young and RG three to pay listen RG three year bump. Go away. Terrible well like garbage prime example here so I've I'm Bradley when it goes quick I think Mecca Leo by the way worst contract handed out in free agency so we gave that guy 55 million dollars Mecca Helio has been terrible in the NFL for the last three years and then got hurt and someone gave him 55 million dollars. It's it's all subjective and this is send the guys that could know guys that brag about winning in a mural championships. It's true now. You know the male ego tell you about my high school career could god all right let's move on. Coming up next is the hot 55 a lot of sports news oh it's Friday which means Freddie random some wily predator and it's coming up forty DA this is the thing.