Mar 9, 2017|
More on the WBC, and your first dive into fantasy baseball this year.
World Baseball Classic talk, and Linfield Prof Chris Keaveney joins the guys to talk Japanese Baseball.
Chris joins the guys to talk about Japanese baseball and how it ties with their culture. Also talks his new book!
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Academic a academic career gimmicks last athletic linemen that lessons they can somebody in this room. Was first team all packed and academic. And it's on these two fine gentlemen to get ready here to London newsroom didn't play. And being in college now now we were we're having a good laugh at my expense though but now I know that's that's sort of good. Thing I guess we are paying. Be proud of what it's a it's a definite thing it's the effect it stuff and think yes it is we are joined in house by the great big Johnson can because we do a couple of times a year. Kind of looking forward to the baseball season Jon was nice not to bring its top trading cards the nerve to open fresh. I'm thinking about certain fantasy team with just these guys you should there's no longer they may and this is not a bad squad I have Michael imports so low. I have Brian that third Lynn door at short. 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Mail Wasim just blew me nice little ten point cushion in thirteen point cushion at the half and loses Colorado so they've begun we can't really be surprised about him in math on this is a big turning around. These sorts and I wasn't cougars and man that's what it was called MLB showdown that's a video game no minimum amount. Sharon and his video game I thought that was a video game out so to. Now you make there's either show there's obviously there's the show are either show. No it is but if the card game. MLB showdown I'm certain you're vitro for you if you wanna come over and look I don't know I've seen polygamy easier if I'd. I'm well. Is he grounded out to second you know you rolling your eyes like a similar are the best hitter in mare's history is she didn't tell you what you star's role means to walk him out to hit a double homework. And it did change the range. Of what was if you really get some Ichiro yeah after all when he hit a homer and that's the only number in that range because he never hit home runs well look when member of the after all to get him to move a runner over. Because that never happened either. Ground ball out of one to two I didn't like six. I didn't know the Mariners are putting people on base before Ichiro well it is nine to eighteen is a singer and I'll. And he says he was the centerpiece I've Sid this before not to go off on a tangent here but. Some days you'll retire and go into the hall of fame as a mayor and it'll be great as I wills I will say I did not appreciated him enough. But he is not my favorite miracle so you know I'm on the up side of the spectrum I mean I think he drove to be atop an interval time he. He was good kids good he was good I don't think he's a top interval time. I I have been on the record of argument with you a map we do have pretty much once again there's a lot of great baseball player's nature Osama topped considerable he only has more hits and everybody ever played got one singles in his a lot of meaningless season smitten he can't nobody played on some garbage two Eagles and that's fair to that is also fair he did was rookie of the year and MVP in the same season and he was awesome in 2001 he had any spent ten years getting 200 plus hits in elk and there's like. 35000. Is that have done that in the history he could sprayed around there's no doubt about that as as a mariner fan that watched. 88 high percentage of his at bats. He had an unnerving ability to. Second and third and one out and we need a base hit and he's grounded to second not doing anything. But if we're lose in Ford announcement in the bottom of the ninth and nobody is uphill tripled the left. I mean he's good at that so and he was not very clutch in my opinion it sounds like the Iran syndrome of meaningless solo home run when your looney and a little bit of that little bit that he was not very clutch in my opinion but to be fair Patrick you're right. Just some hideous baseball teams and you've Massa he did not have a lot of help around him. What is spent most this hour since John's in the house chat now we'll do our official mariner preview and let's go and get back. That train kind of rolled right now let's talk about last hero quickly because I think. Last year's pretty much straight Ford I think I'd like to spend more time on what we can foresee for the next this coming season. But last season I think is easy to say disappointment. Having been married yet I don't think so don't think so. No I I I think the Mariners were as good as we all expect them to be there one. I think I've projected like I guess 8384 wins there were close to that better than map a close about. I thought they'd be in the conversation top three in the west in the end because the Astros were disappointing the Mariners were where the team to step up from finish and so I think I'm. Hung up on the fact that at the end of the season needing a little help they needed to winning game to get in and they couldn't do that. I've I think that's what I guess I'm still hung on me well and there aren't there are definite if you if you look at the team as a whole yes second place in 86 wins I don't think any mariner fan concede that's a disappointment. But if you look at pockets of their season there were times when they played really really well. And unfortunately there were just as many times when they played really poorly. And so they were inconsistent and there are different aspects of the team. That you could certainly use. The word disappointment to describe you know first and foremost is Felix Hernandez have and the starting pitching in general wasn't very good. So that's a disappointment. You can just as easily look it can know who a lot of people were scared after his 2015 season was really bad. I'm 2016. Was MVP quality it anyway and it didn't start well for -- and nobody really kind of turned it on American like man I think grayer in the first month and Apple's calico Goddard had compiled seeger had a really really good year in Nelson Cruz continues to hit the ball pretty well runs and you know came up half Purdue the year and had a better year there are certainly. A bits and pieces you could pull out of the 201616. Season. That were positives. But there word there were negatives and I think those are what sticking with you Patrick. But overall yeah I don't know that you can shake a stick at 86 wins and they were in contention to the last week. The season. A for the last decade my my friend Tony and I we go into every season saying look just be competitive in August C and over the last decade there's only two or three times that that happens in last year was one of them so I don't know all you can say disappointment tonight. Go ahead do you feel like fear. You're reaching a point where you're gonna stop saying just be competitive and honest yes there's actually been a couple of years in a row were. The Mariners have been competitive strongest yet yeah the time is now I I think that I think we've reached that time now we're done we have a new. A the photos in I know you're not a huge to total fan. But he has a plan and that is a vast read everybody all the time well ever pretend that isn't it. He had he looked at our roster and it was horrible it was a horrible roster. And he set I need to get more athletic and better better speed and more defense and he's done that. And we'll see if the plan works but he has a plan and he's two years into remaking the franchise. And so. I think we're to that point now where it's not good enough to just beat Ole you know we're right there. If you go back the last decade the Mariners have only it has been since 2004. Since the mirrors a bad back to back winning seasons. So were over a decade but since they've even strung together two good seasons zero. And I think we're at that point right now where if they don't build on there 86 wins next year I think it's a huge disappointment so. To answer your question Mike what we're of their right now I think as Americans after kind of an injury plagued season two years ago. Oh for could know just look at his stats right now I've always been Robbie can no fan and lover and I'm sure Mike you've got a little love for Ronald routed is a traitor but I loved him here. These a follow the money. These are his stats unless you're under the Mariners have more of me yankees who have threatened to 161. Games played I think that's the number here that sticks out because addresses numbers are rattle off look. Fairly similar for Robbie but 161 games at second base that's excellent led the team in at bats. He's got a 107 runs and she led the team in led the team and a 195 hits. Only second to see here with 33 doubles 39 homers 103 release. Too many average. Mean. He got a feel good about that I was awesome angry because he had kind of a disastrous year before well come to find out stomach virus. Some weird virus lay eggs here injuries and we've all been there is baseball fans wing when you have a player like that menu here. Oh he was hurt or here to into you you million dollar contract you roll your eyes and as a mariner fan when they signed an element ten years we're stuck with him for ten years and 250 million dollars. And I thought. The first five years are gonna be really good Robbie canal hall of fame Robbie canal the last five maybe not so much so when your two goes in the toilet you're like oh. Oh boy we got eighty years thinking that came quickly obviously this guy M and every mayor Sam thought that we are all scared and then all he was heard near the hernia and then whom whatever it's America are right he's this is a disaster and to see him. Come back and how such a great year is huge because another another negative that the Mariners had. Is you're always hearsay goes a tough place to hit. And it's hard to lure freeagent hitters to Seattle so when they get to know when they had to overpay to give them. As a mirror fan big picture we need him to succeed yes we need him to be not Adrian Beltre who came to Seattle struggled and and then left in his starring rob he's keeping Nelson Cruz on the team right we need to know to be that free agent that comes to Seattle and succeeds. And it looks like that's the case for her you add crews on top of that who's had two really really good years. And it changes the merit go to a little bit helps change that culture of the Americans been battling for a decade. That's so we're just nailed and that's what a what a touch and on next culture would knew Jerry to moto is clear Mike is made his feelings sad I want to know your feelings more rare talk and say fourteen on to an eighty the fan. Where there is some attention on T and maybe. Take nineteen here on Portland sports leader 1080 the fan this is the hot corner we used bad boy every single Wednesday night. From seven to nine. We are joined in the house by big Jones can make your familiar with mail and in in at 645 on prime time. Soon to switch over to the higher raided a building momentum. Our that is true do we build momentum within three weeks oh yeah something new sponsor well. 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Literally got fifty minutes to fill jobless here which she continued way too. Weird chat about some mayor stuff right now and I kind of want to switch to this upcoming season and I think it. It goes without saying that Jerry to Toto the new general in year two Jerry to proto. General manager of the Mariner's has done what every candidate to change said colts are within the locker room and within come the minds of the fans. A real quick Hillary this tax on the fan takes on a 55305. Is it is no secret that might disagrees with Jerry to put those decisions. And this takes a sales and hard to argue with lynch said Jerry to put a really doesn't make any good trades to state a lot of trades yet somehow I am still buying in. Very excited for 2017. And John that's kind of where I wanna. What I wanna start. I mean DePaul though. Comes into a tough situation everybody knows jacks he was an absolute train wreck amen that's not mean mariner haters mariner fans and am. Urge people who just watch baseball I think would all agree with that he was not good at building a roster now he may have been good behind the scenes in terms of selling tickets and making money for the club but was not a baseball. Guru now so the poll comes in and is already. Two seasons in has done over fifty trades and really kind of shuffling things up I'm curious. As to your opinion. On the Jerry to go to a year to. I don't really like to. And I and I know Mike I know Mike disagrees and and I would and I would agree that not all his trades that he makes or the sexy trades that you wanna see. A lot of emerge for younger guys that you don't know our guys that are coming back off of the injury or. The bounce back candidates that seems to via. A player that he likes to target. What gets me excited having having suffered through. The as the red nick here and previously before as a red victim general manager that we will not mention his name because I hate him. You shopping he's you shall not be named. Rhymes with road VC. What excites me about the photo is that right or wrong he has a plan and it's a clear plan and it's something that's a Redding never had her in fact if I had it. If I had to sit tell you what I thought as a rednecks plan was it probably would be to acquire right handed power that's all he seemed to want to do. So to total has a plan now whether or not that plan works long term bull remains to be seen were only year to. But we you look at the team that he inherited the culture was bad it's a losing culture the farm system was bankrupt there was no talent down and the younger. In the younger sit farm farm leagues. And the culture was bad we are talked about in the the Major League team was sort of middle Ian about again I mentioned earlier it's been decades since they've had. To winning seasons in a row. A so you have this up and down play that happens so if you look at the challenge that the total faced was to come into that and if let's look at what he's done in two years so one. He's been able to pull off like you talked about I think he's made forty or 45 trades or something. Crazy like him it's clear he knows a lot of people in the league and enjoy working with right most in baseball right now what does that what does that done well he hasn't gotten had to get rid of any of our and and albeit. Minimal top prospects we still have those guys. But he has been able to get younger. He has been able to get more athletic he has been able to acquire a number of outfielders that before we didn't have any. Outfielders he's been able to keep our veteran core there of cedar canola and and and them. Crews and he's been able to kind of rebuild that minor league system last year I think the number and I and I'm trying to shoot from the hip here. I think of the Mariner's state farm affiliates six of them made the playoffs for who made the finals of their league in two of them won championships. Boom and so you're looking at he's been able to kind of rebuild that farm system. While keeping the Major League team viable. And again Woolsey this year as we expect him to take kind of a big step. The other thing you hear. And has been governor that I am and I read spring training reports I read stuff from the lower level guys I read all the B reporters. The thing that you hear all the time is that the culture has changed it's a fun clubhouse these guys like each other everybody's loose everybody's excited there our team leaders. We mentioned Ichiro earlier one of the criticisms that came out of Ichiro where I'm not a leader not a leader and he was by far the best player the most highly paid player wasn't that leader. And Dakota has been able to kind of build around several. Of those leaders now seem totally different types of leaders right now right seeger is kind of the the down home down the street kid. Rally. Rob he's the superstar around yep. Nelson Cruz is kind of a veteran of many of Felix is the emotion guy right. And so I think again alternately whether or not well what we judge Jerry to total one will be decided 345 years from now. But looking at the amount of wood he had the job when he took this job and what he's been able to do in really less than two full calendar years. I mix I think it's great I'm excited I think he has built a contending team. This year and for the first time in a long time we have legitimate talent. In the lower level of the miners that down the road if this little core group is to know and cruises seeger kind of can't get it done. I don't think in he has to shift into a total rebuild mode I don't think we're looking at a rebuild its gonna take forever. I think with the Toto for me the reason I don't like him and he has time to fix that. Is just looking at his history as a GM that's not good that your view the angels brutality is it was a disaster and I mean you can blame some of that on. With the same partner in RD marina the owner. Firm pushing certain moves but. He's behind the gargantuan Josh Hamilton Albert Pujols signings sure there was if I can't find it now there's an article. Back in like 2012 or something and it was like to Jerry to total four. It was like Joseph Blanton was the headline sure and he flamed out completely sure in the angels' farm system now. Is it be by far the worst farm system in baseball it's it's just bear. Not to see you don't learn from mistakes Hiller from history so the photo mate may be learning a mass sense justice and C. J. Wilson true two very big contract I just don't. I can't trust a guy who made that many mistakes over and over and over again with one team I know the Eagles is unique situation. But. Doing all wish Regis great. But it needs to be. At the Major League level it needs to be proven to me sure that this is going to be worth it like. Is Jerod Dyson a starting outfielder you know I doubt he's not we'll find out this year though and mean eyes I just don't trust that kind of remove him is John. Are even boulevard is he going to be good. The guys they got for Mike Montgomery your horse trading Tyler Walker to be the right decision we'll find out. That's what I'm saying is it has determined to Mika on it on paper wanna look at and I'm like. I want from the trade walker walker looked like he was finally figured out at times last year. You're getting a guy in cigar who might be really good that is spinning consistently walker is that's why viewed upon oil I am I'm very skeptical eye catcher out. Why and I don't blame me for that and I and I think that the mariner counterpunch that's coming here. Is that yes I think if you if you read about his time in Arizona or in in Anaheim. A lot of that can be blamed on RT Marino. And the other thing that that people that know about his tee him and Scioscia didn't get along. And so when he took the Seattle job of the first things he did is he hired. No name Scott surveys to be as manager but it's a friend of his and guided the CIA guy. On how to build the team and how to run a club you mentioned earlier something else that wanted to point out is yet you can target some bad contracts that have been signed. Under under the total and you mentioned maybe you'll learn from these mistakes. With all the moves that the powder is made in Seattle. He hasn't signed one bad contract he hasn't you barely signed the contract eating guy hasn't he hasn't gone in and done any non he had he hasn't done that so. His way of rebuilding this team is it bin hasn't been to throw money at it. He's like we have to give younger we have to get more athletic we have to get more flexible with our roster we have to actually build a roster which is some Israeli never did. And two years then I'm I'm all aboard Jerry to Toto I think it's I think he's I think we're headed in the right direction but. To go back to something we said earlier you mentioned when when is it time to prove it it's 2017 it's this year. And all Ali you know one of these things that I think one thing that's gonna help the proto is that Seattle is not a big money spending franchise. Two or Anaheim had the money and was willing to spend the money. So if he's kind of a little more cash strapped especially with Robby is contract in seeger is contract and Felix is contract. That may work to his benefit that he doesn't have money to just kind of role rapture. Sure and also I was Sam is during the break one of the reasons why I've been hard I guess on the Mariners if you wanna put down way. Is. I just. I viewed their situation is really difficult. I even though I said Lester got a gut through the Rangers are gonna be aren't going to be as good as they're supposed to be this year. They still have Cole Hamels and Yu Darvish at the top of their rotation. And they've got. A lineup that no matter what what players you put into it. Rakes every single here tough division the Astros despite being disappointing last year are gonna go in year three of George springer and Carlos Correia and get those top players into a leak form that we expect him to get into. I'm it's really difficult to try to be getting into got to leave mariner brain right now. When those two teams are basically on the same track animals in the same cap they they've started a little bit earlier in the Mariners but. The same kind of youth movement especially with Houston. And if so it's really different coal at the top of that division to kind of breakthrough and that's why. When people like all American immigrant issue there might be good they might be a fun team to watch but. Hard to finish in first place her. Yeah that's going to be tricky and speaking of that I think we'll switch on to on field play maybe look at some players that we expect to play well maybe who might take a step back and guys that were really going to be counting on appear mariner fan it's 830 is Michael lynch. Joseph Fisher Obama glass big Johnson Kenny in the studio this to an eighty the fan. This is the hot corner where terrorism when John Kennedy drove. Say 37 here. The hot corner. We're joined in studio where mr. Jarvis who can't attend some burner stuff. Times fly and I did 37 already calling them always student baseball makes time go by quickly doesn't it does. Does sit back and enjoying baseball tock I cannot wait until. Opening night for opening day the first day there's three games on the Sunday. I'm used to sit there for. 910 hours a news watch baseball when I hoped on the mirror pre sale yesterday and got my tickets for the home opener. Loom already few other games I I've purchased early but I got a hobby and lower right field for the home opener on the tenth of April Linda. Can June killing and I'd say the Yankees are actually there on a weekend this year I am unable to I want to you I've been able to go because they've been in the middle of the week every year. Who who did you what other games he's circled on the calendar so early I usually make it up to. Oh maybe eight to ten a year but the ones that we bought early about opening day. Early yesterday. That same week that Friday that first Friday that they're home they're unveiling degree if you statue. They announced that they're gonna put agreed to statue in front of the park so. They're unveiling that you've given out little replica as the statue I'm over that area I'm going up twice the first week. And then we're gonna go up this is the first year in six or seven years in the mirrors have been home on fourth of July. Also a fireworks show bring the kids were accused of family and examiner revoked on fourth of July spend the day it there or did the fireworks and all that stuff so my mom doesn't know that yet and I'm bailing and on. The family down here so well you don't wanna go to the floor like we do every years we've been in high school ridiculous Finley down here and we're going up and then in August. And they're retired Edgar Martinez's June oh yes right and what a great hear from her sister right and so we're gonna go up I bought so those before that we got tickets for league wanted to make sure we get good seats for those four T things owners say real quick as we completely. 1 of the Indians are in Seattle late September. Who could be of importance or be massively important for both sides particularly gorgeous one of the two or you know I so I'm excited so albeit if that on this earth generous is one of the two. Yeah I. Sean across the balance that's not only an early shot across hey I'm Indians could be a disappointing you know no I'm glad someone pick that up I was like yeah I'll just small little shot fired across land there. I think he was honestly say it could be the Indians having the players with deep down he knows they're not gonna have this for me that's who we yet we have the pairing guy at that. DH anyway and then my second thing is we're tired of this when they announced that they were gonna. Retire Edgar Martinez Jersey them Inge stayed in New York. A point of view from this do you think this is like and about time we were gonna do this all along this year or is this. The start of the great campaign. That is already begun. For Edgar in the hall blue bowl I think I obviously Amaechi gender Martinez fanned and any mayor deserves to be in the hall keep growing no I was growing up I always loved Griffey and was like back has clearly the best player but my guy I was always Edgar as well and and with mirror translate Griffey is Griffey and and he's the face of the franchise -- Enders that guy that is probably even more loved and Griffey because he never left rep and he he's mr. Seattle and stayed there so. I'm a huge Edgar Martinez had named a street out front now. Reported corner vendor in days again and I love I love that the mayor Safeco is at the corner of Edgar and Dave but I think it's I think it's well well. Past due to the Mariners retired his number. They have some funky team rule that talks about it lays out some conditions on Gideon and number retired and one of them is the hall of fame and it is interesting because up until this year Edgar's kind of had a very slow climb even in the hall of fame in for a variety of reasons is another conversation we can have. This year he's really started to build momentum to the hall of fame a lot of people are predicting in 2019. His luster on the ballot he gets in. So it's a little Eckstein immediately Mariner's. Are doing it this year instead of waiting for him to get inducted into the hall of fame but. I think maybe it's it's kind of the other half of that coin is there's a lot of momentum for him right now. And I think this is just kind of riding that wave of momentum insane look hey not only is he need to be in the hall of fame everybody that's kind of coming around that. View he's one of the best players we ever had we're gonna retire his number and put it up there with junior and. Jackie I I think I think we're giant poster in Times Square away from this campaign being full on relevant way to remember when they put that big poster in Times Square of Joey Harrington yeah for the Heisman because it's all East Coast voters and nobody watches West Coast and we weren't that close to being full on. This guy deserves at all I've I've been. Big show and I've said this I think the David Ortiz effect is very greatly helping out your mark absolutely because they virtues is a hall of Famer. And it played DH for almost his entire career us wage. The voters a reason for keeping Edgar out was he only DH he didn't play the field while David Ortiz is gonna have to make policy you cannot leave him out. So if you acutely David Ortiz out then well guess what can we know you're out because he was the greatest DH of all time until David Ortiz probably took down mantle from him but. You can't leave back guy out anymore you're gonna put David RT. Is in in five years the David Ortiz factor is definitely. A plane into the mood of the wave that that Edgar ready right now and the other thing that's gonna help him out is is you finally had greens Gideon and he was kind of the sexy candidate. What hearings doesn't deserve to bimbo whatever you think about Raines he became the sexy candidate the last two years in and he was the big candidate that everybody pushed for the first year on the ballot you get less than 25%. How do you get in in ten years that he but he became that pollster Charlie and and now he's off the ballot and I think Edgar becomes that guy that everybody starts to talk about I think next year he makes another big huge jump into the upper sixties. And then in nineteen he gets that final push I've already told my wife. And we went back this year obviously for Griffey in seventeen and we kind of left and and I told my wife look I told you I wouldn't go back for awhile but I'm probably gonna make the trip again in nineteen security tell you would hold out hoping 2018 day Edgar gets into some each of their zone there for Jim told Tony that only on the ballot but Mike doesn't believe Tommy's a first ballot. So maybe I just got maybe he doesn't I'll see in nineteen with that I believe that he is I don't know the voters will put him in first bow competitors as Willie Pete Thomas just your average look we've established that nobody likes lynch that's fair with the itself when it when you watch. That's been established. If he may if you if Tony Katz over to nineteen may we all joke is nineteen is my. Arianna Rivera the other or very little only people are doing is they're we will only had urine Mariano and people who are down we can do the show a special edition of hot corner. A lot of I producers. I share a little literally feel they're they have Doubleday field Doubleday field no I'm not only 7%. But you're gonna cumbersome have not on the outcast in this so gate and airmen two World Series game. Yes. My cash you can we come back I believe John has age John large to a corner and I felt I had the Homer Simpson and it into the it was a hectic World Series game among. What does that either I've heard about the World Series. No we come back getting John's got a bold statement that he wants lets you know this is the hot corner on 1080 defense. This is the corner where terrorists only and John and Jenny B. 648 years we wrap up the hard corner and Johnson mechanical meg talking some Mariner's stuff I think it's time to. John a little bit about what to expect in the 2017. Season like simply missed only seventeen and using point six team owners whose world cannot wrap reminder ominous two dozen from Bryant who. Rich Hill gave up three runs in him one point two innings today in the minors. How's that Israel's when Japan's view is the juggernaut that is team is juggernaut that is Israel. Mean to ditch. Please to the Dutch somebody in Simmons apparently somebody somebody played for the Dutch steel I believe on drew Jones played for the Dutch know first years Jonathan scale is a dutchman and sell video. VoS a Chris Archer's gonna be the ace for team USA today's to have the US is saver vivid if it's Tony fifteen Chris archer yes of its sweet sixteen were doomed to hack. While the walks in coming Lotta luck Chris USA I've seen a couple of places the USA is the favorite by far gorilla thing. That's they are that's barely the odds on favorite Vegas to win I'm not saying they're going to do about freaking time right. All right well been moved to make her Wallace general interest destroy them yeah man coverage is loaded. When he got Robby can now Robby Cano at second Beltre at third Cruz at the DH Manny ain't fair and I mean Edison Volquez is is there a silk could be worse now. That's pretty dumb butt spear race is pitching staff players all things considered how old. How do we foresee either 2017. Season for. Yours Seattle Mariners. We talked about it earlier little bit I mentioned the step I was gonna throw at you guy's in this is the basis behind our armed taking on a new I think I'm predicting good things for the Mariners sure I think they have a very solid club. I think they'll be right there in the mix I think you'll be close enough to the trade deadline that the total Google making a move or two. To kind of make that run some bigs are flashy I think so I think this is kind of what he's waiting for they have money to spend he has some prospects to deal now I think if we're close you'll see a splashy move maybe to. But this evident throughout there earlier as as we kind of build momentum for 2017 is the Mariners led all of baseball last year in one run games they were in 61 run games. They finish thirty and thirty. 86 wins few games behind out of contention so how do you change. Five or six of those you change five or six of those games and also you win 9192 ball games and your right there I believe 94 was best record in. No relation American League last year at the Rangers so how do you win in Andy's how do you change how do you win viruses games well look so lineup you make line strengthened lineup a little bit and I think they've done that. Can we have a better outfield. Classic era comes in I think straight is the lineup got a little bit Valencia. Guns is nasty blow bock we we expect to be good things are they going to be platoon in the tune could hold about selecting they want they want to give him every chance to be the guy. And I am Valencia's kind of a back up plan if you want a home run faster if it doesn't show out vote this hit everywhere and we were talk talking about him earlier he's the guy they got from the cubs in the Mike Montgomery deal he's just blocked. About risen in Chicago he's hit everywhere. And I'm under the impression that if Epstein drafted here is responsible for a million. Maybe he's a good player so they're gonna give him every chance to win that job. So if you look at last year's lineup we no longer have the Oki we no longer have Adam Leon's. We no longer have to tell marte who were just huge holes in the middle that Linus of what is better so that helps. There we go bullpen I think our bullpen is gonna be lights out this year we don't have chizik clothes anymore we have any ideas we talked about it earlier. He's picked up a lot of guys they got through four guys that can touch a hundred. In the bullpen some younger guys you haven't heard of some older guys coming back off of a decent I only know like two of the relievers in the Mariners bullpen right well is Dan out of that is one of the guys young guy made the jump from double a last year throws a hundred. I'll watch out for him he's going to be a really good setup guy what about having screws hundred years ago they got from Oakland last year he was hurt all year but when he came back in September lights out. And then they went and got scrabble the residents Brzezinski easier scheme guy Andy the only eleven from the giants is good morally if he had only lefty in the bullpen bright and they went and got him because his numbers were so good is that lefty guy out of the bullpen is dangerous only have one left. Well I have a couple option right. And then use pitching starting pitching you look at starting pitching and I think it's better than last year and overlooks nights we don't have the sexy names but we don't have we Miley. Anymore either. We don't have anything torrents I think smiley is gonna be really really good and in Paxton is gonna be really good. I think Felix is an important linchpin Felix has to be better than it was last year. But I think he will be I think early in spring training all the words out of mayor campus that he's taking a much more serious this year. He wants to prove the doubters wrong came back in good shape different program. So and then the final piece the puzzle is defense last year we had a hideous outfield. A defense I mean I love Nelson Cruz love him. He shouldn't play right field ever a Oki is not a good beef defensive outfielder a Lear is Martina had a nice year. I'm so you look at Penn Edgar we got in the Arizona deal a kind of a throw in but he's going to be the right fielder. Can play center field to end Dyson will be left field so we have three guys. They cast have played center field in the major leagues now playing out till I think we'll have one of the better defensive outfield. In baseball. So I imagine it's a trade. Line of two total goes and looks for bad it's going to be an outfield right right because I'm okay you're out of there right now and and let's see according to roster resource dot com Leodis Martinez 29. And tiger is 26. And then drug Dyson is the old man let. That's kind of semi expendable you know if if the Mariners are in contention I can. Picture him getting like a Carlos Gonzales type of player she's okay east on the block or not or they're just gonna keep him in Colorado could if you don't trade him every year here cargo are you. Resigning then I just would mab being like the perfect fitting that he is another great values of find fielder but he could go play means a right fielder so. Mean I guess maybe compatible triggers a hamburger can play all three doesn't affect you Marty they've already said they Marty said late in the game if they take dice and out. They're gonna move hamburger. Over to left. And put the lens in right Welker and and there you go so you have all those things together. And you look through your. Teal colored mariner blue glasses. And you add up all that positive to be that we take into the 2017 season. And I am declaring right now here on your show for the first time. Okay 2000 at seventeen American League west champions. Seattle Mariners hole. Who sign a Cadillac of soul. I'd like hot items these all I am console I kind of like it I don't I don't agree a 100% when you're doing a great sales job got to sell that well I think LA I think there's a lot of there's a lot of questions in the division to in this team is clearly improved. Much the on the fan takes on a 55 through five hander going Tony Tony this year marked down could happen just. One thing. You sit how do you fix five games. Guaranteed the Mariners nominate anyone can see Kathleen. Let's just see it's so many 'cause will be winning Memphis who think it. Good pace good things ahead this year. All right we like to thank our good friend here big Johnson can for coming in as he does. Couple times a year thank you my friend as always has been great I wanna thank you guys it's a great time I love coming in here talking baseball with fear and we will will be listening all year but I will see you again. Shortly after the all star break sounds good but indeed I don't know we're doing next week Apple's stick to themes we'll figure something out there we know this yet. They're going to be doing stated baseball or some blue state of the union. Like that such a great title all right for Michael lynch. Big job educating Joseph behind the glass is the hot corner go do something we would do. Like by baseball cards.