Mar 3, 2017|
Discussing the Michael Johnson hire by the Ducks, and why Joe Mixon wasn't invited to the Combine.
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We're talking about him of being designated the one guy who could score a hundred over anybody else in the league right now and now I have a newbie tethering your put that together. And Thompson to skits and played a hot ending up consonants I think sometimes he takes a lot of bad shots because he's just trying to get in his rhythm. It sucks you want to lawyers you like it if you're a lawyer for and you go on what YE shooting that. When you've got Currie in Durant and green in those guys out there but Thompson will. He will go ice cold and just take it and just keep chalking up some crap but. And when it starts going in it's insane it is insane listen this said the sixty point 98. Liz December of 2016. Against the pacers. He he scored sixty in less than thirty minutes heating up play thirty minutes they send out and the most amazing number was. He was third on the warriors that night in touches. And he still put up sixty points curry touched it 64 times green 53. And Thompson 46. Remember they sat and they did not play in the whole ball game it's incredible look to the score was 142106. So I mean by keeping him in. Like with Kobe's 81 he needed those 81 that was a close game that against the raptors pat that was a come from behind win and I don't remember that game but I just picture them just feeding him. Over and over and over the ally he just simply go 46 shots as opposed to 33 that basically Thompson took. Fun little note if you want more Wilt Chamberlain was just a man amongst boys. 56 times in the NBA someone has scored more than sixty point sixty or more. Wilt Chamberlain owns 38 of those 38 of how many 56. Only been done 56 times in the history of the league that someone has scored sixty more than dudes got 38 of other names are on there. Well there's model will. Toby is second with 81 and then will owns the next five. David Thompson. Has 73. Bel Air Elgin Baylor 71. David Robinson had a 71 point game in 94 no doubt. And how much in hand there. Is rob to would've done without three's 41 attempts. Then will will will Jordan had 69. And goes against the Celtics if I'm not mistaken. Mayor Vic had 68. Code began with 65. By the way the only person to do it more then once. Well. The size will this Kobe Bryant he's the only guy that appears on that list. Twice most shocking person to drop sixty. I mean David Thompson. Joseph faults. Recruitment. When he played in the thirties 1949. I'm trying to see if there's anyone that is. Tracy McGrady Carmelo Anthony. Understandable George might get. Well I think yeah. 1952. He jobs 61 and Baylor Shaq LeBron and Bernard King may be odd here ago I have the name Meyers Leonard well Iverson did it Gilbert greatest did it. But the most. Out of character sixty or mare yet sixty or more he did sixty white donkey. We just we have this army timbers Tommy chambers have now been out Tommy chambers had sixty. Against the Seattle SuperSonics in 1990 am. All right well on Oregon duck football news bodily Willie Taggart on now winters and springs today gained a podcast that. You sure can't you know how to do that 1080 the fan dot com. Right to relish trump that's two appearances in like two months on the station you must like the record isn't frozen us out in lieu of some sort of love affair going on Iraq heads. We're doing something so he is on there. I wanted to talk about this guy they hired as a wide receivers coach. Yeah. That Michael. Is Mike Johnson might Johnson. And now more importantly he's Mike Johnson senior with the yes and Mike Johnson junior. He's pretty good football. Mike Johnson junior got to be fair senior is an accomplice coach. Yeah he coached in Oregon State he's got those with the niners zip codes to UCLA he's been a coordinator before ease either in OC a real coach he is definitely a real coach but so is that Manning is that there. What does Mario Chalmers data real coach I think he was I think he was up there in Alaska. You learn thick but an actual accomplished coach. Well I'll let you do the deal on that but this practice is not uncommon now and quite frankly. It's not. It's not against the rules oh and I think it's perfectly. I guess the word would be perfectly ethical to do. Though there is a and it's where a team or school yet in college gives a job to do dad of the son of a kid they wanted to create. Now Jim Harbaugh did this with the secretary. Last year may was two years ago when he first got to Michigan. Her son was the Stanford guy and he was a graduate transfer it's a Jimmy Hart. Tab and hire the mom for what is administrative staffs Leno Hartmann was wanting to hire this guy Mike Johnson because. Now Mike Johnson was at the niners yeah under Mike Singletary as an assistant coach. When Harbaugh took over there he did not retain Mike Johnson now but now at Michigan he was talking to. I'm Mike Johnson about hiring him there because his kid Mike Johnson junior. Is the number one dual threat quarterback in the class of 2019 so hard I was did hire him but he was trying to get a waiver to make him an actual coach he was gonna make him forget the term but like what's our analysts there's an analyst he was gonna do like what circuit Alabama. Or Jeff to average up to Washington where you're allowed to coach. Other coaches you're allowed to be in the game plan room stuff like happier not actually allowed on the field to coach. Well organ offered him an actual coaching position no waiver no nothing so he's an organ now. And I guess we jagr said he was talking Harbaugh about meanwhile receivers coach Jim Harbaugh said well. You know here's this guy and at the time he was the was coaching his son's school some like king's academy in California. And then got up for the job at Michigan and then a better job Dorgan now this has been done quite a few times now you can look right down the road during a state where Wayne teen goal. Was hired now. He was hired because his kid was. Highly touted recruit but certainly didn't hurt Thompson is assistant head and his skin tingle skater buddies in the Isaacson horrible there Isaacson a mile loop Mario Chalmers Kansas game any game remaining Kansas. One else well there the candidate that flipped adult before five star recruit from Morgan faults up in Washington bureau reporter ansari is a Porter. Otto Porter right none of them not on important time of the Brenner Rory won in its Michael Porter but is his was it faults is data reporters. I think porter's dad as an assistant with Lorenz a row mar one of the men's quarter. The kid has because they they move from Missouri and the kid has now enrolled at Brandon Roy school is. Of course they are undefeated now we're back. Well and he'll be headed to Washington knees project to be the number one pick in the draft next here we'll that was the rumor and I ought to go back and do some digging on this but when the I forget did the kid's name Polynesian kids these fights are kid that was true spirit committed to Washington and he flipped at the last minute and ended up going to USC. That was supposedly what what happened there was in of the job offer is this does occur. All the time this is this is a fairly regular practice do you have a problem and it is it ethical doesn't put too much pressure on the kid. We'll talk about it with the ducks did to get Mike Johnson. I'm coming up next and what it may mean for fifteen on the fan. Time went by chicken soup guns NA VOK. All right well you wanna get began in the dead job I saw this the other day on Twitter this kid is deficiencies at all. That it's now organized list but it got a bunch of you only got he got an offer the date they hired his dad yeah. Now so the ducks hire new wide receiver coach's name is Mike Johnson and his son happens be the number one dual threat quarterback in the class of 2019. Now. Johnson was gonna go and coach of Michigan but he is an accomplished coach and by the way the kid was committed too mission. Yeah but that doesn't mean act that was a verbal commitment doesn't mean anything news. 2019 but if you don't believe that he was committed to go where his dad was gonna go in May be yeah. Always committed some world. Now the question in Oregon is is wearing gave them a better offer which I think is the slime notes okay. Now get this guy and then it in them have a better shot at this kid more money is said it's an actual position coach as opposed to DNA. An analyst there in Michigan but some are speculating that may be. He wants to be DOC by the time the sun gets there it's possible. And maybe that will happen and maybe get a little leverage there but if you think did this all operates in the day she areas of gradient and. It's welcome to the world of the NCAA. This current lead the least. She eighty being big goes on in recruiting I don't find it that she eighty and I give if I mean if it's one thing if. The father offers nothing. But he can't recognize the fathers and eighty it in a girl let's put a suit on him. And drum on the bench for basketball or let's put a headset on him and come on the sign on the Mets meet them. But every one of these examples were matching acquainting Khalili going tingles qualified to coach Oregon State or his it's he is is assistant as is it Steve Thompson. His assistant UST it is there I mean these guys are all coaches. It's like dating a really cool Galvin just. Happens to have a great pair of laptops as well you're not. Wellness and whip there for the autopsy is a wonderful woman did sweet she can cook but you don't let. Then the voters towards her and sometimes you are whether for the up top is certainly doesn't hurt. It's just a nice. Little bonus so here's what Paul find mom. Of ESPN that SEC blow hard said about Jim Harbaugh went Harbaugh was about gas you have to make this tire. To hire Mike Johnson said this is wrong. It may not be illegal by NCAA standards and bylaws as of this moment but to me it's cheating it's blatantly disregarding the spirit of the NCAA rule. We all know why he's doing it in this is the same person who last year accused nick Sabin cheating he accused Hugh freeze of cheating and in my mind. In Harry can't prove any won't be penalized for it but he. He sheeting. Why don't we just face up to it. There's no other reason why he would hire this man it's been done in the past but it's still wrong. I don't know why the media celebrates Jim Harbaugh to disregard the NCAA rule book in doing things that are in my mind and at the shore up Paul fire and bomb for him. And sixty exist in the state of Alabama. To zip it. That's that is the dumbest thing in the world the hypocrisy of people that wanna come out and attacks something like this again. This is it's one it's not illegal. First and foremost they're talking about making a ruled David I would dagger talk about rule that would push it two years out yet you'd have to have the fox tried to hire the dad two years ahead of giving him the kid but this is. The weather in basketball it's hey Larry LeBron as an assistant right now they think these kids really good where Shaq group. Bull bull bull but you both kid we can Scott Bowman who bulls Dan retirement rebels courts well I guess that was the that the rumor and again I'm trying to do some more digging in on it but there's the kid did flipped from you'd dubbed too. To USC the rumor is they gave his brother jobs of meeting go down that road to ignore desire to ask about the gulf applaud the exit. Tupelo to the big defensive lineman. That was. There was for Morgan he committed to Washington was for like ten months than the last minute good to USC there's all kind acted. All of wonderful rumors that are floating around about bad about why he flew to USC about maybe some things that you see could've done for his family. It's just. OK so no that's different now if you're saying OK I am any given Matt mcginnis the data job. That's one thing but if rather a job I'm in Mena brother that's one thing but it's another to be giving the family. Inning you're you're insinuating that they're giving him and them. All of what they call. Benefits and like how are you Arnold and that's I'm not insinuate I'm just saying that that's there there's a ton of chatter if they're doing things for the family that's all mine and loudly against the rules there was a ton of chatter windy Anthony Thomas came to war again and he. USC's is dead down there. Not only was his daddy that was more just some people are just cash at him he's all right we're assuming that let's stick to the dad thing. And under think it's it's all Einstein's it's all the same pool of things though but if you're if you're. A basketball player. Where you're you're what shoe you're a YouTube where's whose pain your age you coach can determine where you're going if you're a do you school. And your coach is getting paid by deed is to run an AU team. Those kids are expected to go to an added a college that it's an idiot school. Or you don't Nike gets or your hooks into you ward you know used to be Reebok and now it's pretty much come down to under armor is now thrown in that mix as well. There's a thousand different ways that you funnel money to kids or their families or you get. Little extra kind of perks for going to a different school. And this one to me is the most legitimate of any of them the highly of the parent. Or the brother or whatever that is by far our way to meet the most legitimate. Extra benefit debt by the way is in no way illegal. That is involved in Mercury Wheeling mean anybody grant him just. I knew our firm job yeah you and is there ever many kids they didn't go weather data lows. Don't know anyone if they don't get this team. They have my dad's name on my door and there won't then you still end up with a pretty accomplished coach and that's ultimately why I think especially the organization digs zero heat from this non. This guy wasn't a coach in the NBA and I NFL for ten years you suffered to courted in the NFL with an off its corner Rick Neuheisel yeah UCLA. The guy is more than. All fight to be a wide receivers coach organ should receive zero scrutiny for this and I mean zero. What if down the religious have nothing but dads on the earth on their staff. Of retreats. Does all that I don't think that would. With that would make for a very good staff. And got to get kids you only get so many coaches tell America earning. Can winning team gold take Trace at the dinner now. Yeah yeah it's if you haven't existing relationship. I'm I'm assuming that the father is the existing relationship. And so in this goes for like friends and families do so like if we. If meet. Turned out to be a really good basketball prospect. Under is steadily rose Ike could help meet out because there'd be existing relations that are you know we worked together for eleven years you can make the argument that I was a family friend. There was able to help out. And I'm telling you there's a thousand of these different little loopholes. That people use in order to get off this is not a little to me just tell us Smart business or business. And now here's one it's and Mike Bibby didn't go to Arizona that's true. Was babies are USC. Bitty winter's heating idiocy was that worries analysts I think Henry was a USC when he. Don't know eating go play for his daddy I don't think of oops. That's do you. But I UCLA is lucky Alonso balls dad didn't like coach well and this is this is the one I I kind of want to look into so that. Low balls dad who's a Chinese Jack gets by the way that it's got a clothing company online. The just it's horrific stuff by the way you can do this or that anyone is buying the big ball or line of T shirts. I know it's everyone wants to line up and get a shared this is big ball or on it. And by the way the tees it's a sixty dollar it's the switcher so like 85. Wanna bet just off the top your head like if if you did make an internal. Audit of where a lot of those sales are coming from. Mean what's the stopped that your dad runs a legitimate company what's to stop some booster for ordering. 50000 T shirts to selling his. You know all mighty sword of Celanese retail store somewhere in Brentwood. Analysts there's so many different ways to funnel it. You know that in you know whether it's get McCann a car get a card is the easiest one to do. Is he just you buy it for the uncle or the brother whoever goes to a car dealership quote unquote pays cash. And then that guy with the existing relationship turns around and hence the cart or whatever player he wants. And it's all legitimate if you go back in Tracy. Goes back to a family member it's no big deal this techsters right remember Jason people but big dog T shirts. What if that was all a scam what if that came from Mike is successful Alabama football Flickr like Shaun Alexander's dad was the one that started big dog clothing. And arts. Is this never point fingers when it comes incidental. Occurred because there's four of them when you write -- your school in not only the most famous of the Danny Harris. Maybe is one the first I don't know this is a big one. Was it Kansas win that Danny Manning yeah. Was deciding whether or not he would go to Kansas or North Carolina and they hired Larry Brown went to Kansas from the NBA I think. And he had a past relationship with Ed Manning Danny's dad. And Ed may mean it was a basketball coach. I forget where they were from. And he gave had a job and it is like it's great to get back in the basketball well it it was the move that got Danny. To Jews Kansas over North Carolina and seemed headed to North Carolina they want and us and they won a title but the funny thing about the end Manny thing is. Ed Manning did not have a degree. And you have to have a degree. In order to beat coach half and they got around that. Night and I'm not exactly sure how they got around it but I guess he was close enough. To getting a degree that they were able to. I just so much agreement there Douglas. The rules a little bit brown won a championship the very next Lleyton very next year they were information. She should not for that shocked so you know it's not to let you know let's not talk about that bind plane ticket does it. And then Roy Williams went in there and didn't win best. A late he won a lot of games yes he did but he image in addition the Bill Self did and I'm sure Bill Self has done in clean as a whiz all Bill Self skid plays that. I think citizens think African kids because they're Africa asked and other self. And he's a scrub it lets you and Jim bear arms kid committed to Cornell this weekend. So he's not gonna play experience with I thought it was deficits and ate all that buzz and even women to do that warrant come in here what is the stress on the band live for again never offers this Mike Johnson team. When they are needed and on to saying likely if who says that ever happened Maria either dad you know I dad if it's not very give it good enough. It will be awkward for that kid what he wants to go somewhere else. And who knows what kind of daddy yes. The death may be one of those cool dad is like a mango you wanna go Laurie could be the kind that really really leans on the kid buys in the cigarettes and Snowe and if you go to jury you drink get this out in front of me. One of those dads are act let's move on shall we. What is up next Jason. Next where to go where to go ahead big dog T shirts hey you known him. The money darker Bala and you know Omagh today. There's a guy who retired. Who from sport the sports are. And he's a local guy and we need to mention him and we're gonna do that. Coming up next in the corner here's Mike. Revising its soup dog and thank commanded about an hour Jason clicks yes and we'll check in on. Your hometown bullies. You are. Kind of lost track their records. Think there's three out of the gates now. And is it three and their three I don't know what the actual record is that they are three games at the eight spot blazers are now 24 and 35. Button. Mosley Lou. The win total was a 5050. To 54 bit before the war. Idea was offer to me Europe before they projected as a 54 went flying you figure it's projection. Off. Yet Denver is it twenty or 33. Right now between 33 yeah all right I'm back there as a man so we'll talk blazers at 530 he's a man chasing click he's authority. Yes so I'm there is a guy. And he is he is over forty. And the Pentagon and I am not forty yet nearly 3838. Comes to buoy. Your child. Disappointed when you run into people of the lake you went to school with and they're like doctors and attorneys and our like accomplished professionals in your aiko. The give me all done so lines and so much with my life you've been easy John you may give money shot up plea for Saunders reliving. My friends are doctors. Pretty great actually I think it's great to. Really do this and be a doctor. Mean there may know now on the and go and they noted that good. Continue stop bitching about your job continue with the story of a great depth case so this guy is a great dude and he's a local guy. And he was a great empire did you see that Jim Joyce retired I did not see the Jim Joyce her retired and he came on the program wants. I don't think he did I think his kid did was it is key issues is kid and because he licences showed and he. And it was right after the big flap with Saddam did. Armando Galarraga who yet the no hitter. Was perfect game out yeah. And it's a perfect game no longer. In house reading up on that Jim just not Jim Joyce is the guy if he if you watch baseball he's the guy with a mustache yet it's it's a power staff should be around for years it's it's like a solid Sam Elliot mustache he's widely considered one of the best umpires in the game. Any jumped in three World Series very accomplished guy but he's the he's in even better dude and here's an example so. Unfortunately what will stick to him in many people's minds is. He's the umpire that robbed Armando Galarraga of the tigers of the perfect game and you. Was of the tigers. Yet he is of the tigers. And what did you think Lewis. I thought the Rockies were involved knows the Taurus name pitch for the tigers. And a little known fact Joyce had worked there when Dallas Braden threw a perfect game. Three days that was like a month before enjoys it worked that game. Well there's a book out now and Joyce participated in it that's about that. Heard again the dollar write a curving it the whole book wire remember when he came out he spoke to the media afterwards and using tears and he was saying that he cost the because the kidnapper game was in tears about it. Well he said. He was he was the first base umpire yes if you guys remember that game and it was I mean it was two outs in the ninth. In Galarraga was working on a perfect out and Joyce said in says in the book. That he knew it was coming to him you're like oh boy here comes. The red. Sure enough the play comes to him. And he ruled safe. Everyone went crazy I forget who the hitter was. But it was clear that he was out. On the play and he looks over at Darryl cousins are he he he gets there because the other empire and they get together and he asked him. If he asked him if he kicked it. So did I ticket. And cousins. Just pause nobler. Yeah and so he knew and after the game he'd seen the replay. And this did does that give a guy Jim Joyce's he went to the tigers' clubhouse in tears is crying yet to apologize. To Galarraga is they did I botched it screwed up at this time there was no replay. There's Jason Donald by the way you hit the ground ball to Miguel Cabrera. He even suggested to Joyce even suggested to the commissioner's office. That the call be overturned yet they go back next day he called the commissioner. Colin said did I screw this up he got to tell you gotta get this kid the party game. And books called. Nobody's perfect and Joyce. Donate all the proceeds to charity but it's a pretty interesting. It's a pretty interesting story that the guy to this day feels just awful about yet the took away. You did deed because some of perfect game which you know doesn't come along very often how many of them have how many of them. Have happened in the history of Major League Baseball not know it was a perfect games it's a fairly funny fairly rare occurrence. An anomaly Google and Irving gains and it into a faster. It 23 when he won. Modern era. 23 total 23 total but to those were pre 19100 and those don't count did a beach you know what I'm times in the modern there I had to correct facts. 23. Announced when he threw an apparent definition over a 140 years song Paula Paul Paul well anyway Jimmy Joyce retired and he's did BB. And a very good umpire user Elena inspected and it just it's crazy how one moment. You know he's screwed up. We think about that he can have you can be defined by that to some people on how many if you make their right called Noah knows who he is that's kind of a crappy part about that job or any official for that matter is no one remembers the million times he got it right. They're only gonna remember the one time the out of wrong. Two words. Jason two words Don Dinkins here. Although some people rather happy. About Dante Taylor how do you how you miss that. I've it's worse than buys whalers in the way worse then loses the dollar art call not even close that's in the gold our World Series. You know our ranking in the next should we layoff Joseph makes and no but if we can discuss it. 443 on the fan but. 510 minutes Jason quick 530. I look back and we'll. Galarraga played it first down I think I remember that being a bang bang play it knows it is it was a nightclub it was out by eight. Yeah. A good solid step and a half with it as bad as being injured. It's pretty bad I don't know if it was quite that bad things are gonna see that. Maybe the worst call in sports history but this is pretty close mean he's he's on the back when you when they go slow motion. He's nowhere near the bag when dollar write it touches it. Mean it is it is not close how you you miss that one that's. I can see why that's things executive with a bang bang play but I think he feels that bad because when he went back and looked added it's like how on God's greener that I missed that. Now when he commenced in overturn it meet its foreign clear is there I think a price that's a dangerous in president's going back in changing. Calls after game is over on the books now yep. Hey. You boy Joseph Manchin won't be at come on now the NFL has a policy where. They don't I I thought it was felonies but it may just be domestic balance their rope and into this they're not gonna win by those people to become. Let's kind of a vague I it's he had since it's open for interpretation it's like if you have a history of violent crime TX is London's. We want. We eat you don't need to be in our Kumble and I would assume that making. On homophobic slurs and then breaking the face of what nineteen or twenty year old girl. Go ahead and say that probably constitutes violent behavior. Such is the plight of thought Oklahoma running back Joseph mix and yeah who is quite an elite prospect. But he will not be a become mine because it is not so big he's the second or third best back in this this draft. Which is a very deep draft a running back so he in the come on people like the NFL reggae. The czar right Comerica not. Privilege and the lions he knows claimed the lines GM said it was Cheney. That he wasn't there yet aligns GMs just like did we wanna violate this guy here when my one will bring an end to the yeah he doesn't care now you and give to Rick Nixon did get I think he got up he plea he pled out. Yes today yet he BJ at the plea deal and any and a deferred sentence yet didn't serve any jail time is on probation and he's kept his nose clean for the last nearly sat out a year that he played two and it isn't on his record yet. So okay. Has he served his. Tour is that right to be in the NFL but to reform that's in your true from has he served his. He's paid his price right he's paid his price but I do let Vick back in it pisses me off that he didn't do any jail time. That are out there but that's that's the system that's the system it bothers me the rewrites indeed jail time I'd I don't understand. How how these things don't lead to some form of prison sentence but. IE he he went to the court system. Well what point do we do we. Not forget the stuff with these guys but at what point do we move on like HM Peterson. Sort of skates all his problems now yeah beaten his kid with the leading go to jail free branch or whatever. Yeah I mean look. For wherever that changes my opinion earlier Peterson but again I think there's a difference between at least having the argument the return to discipline your child. Then. You're just mad because some girl didn't wanna go home asleep with the U and so you'd decided to breaker face. I don't think that's a mistake and this is may be right differ from a lot of people. I don't think that's a mistake I think that's we war I think that's a church I think it's okay Michael Vick thing that's on the point point in much the guy. Went to the system yes should he not be allowed to be at the com bind and proceed on with his life and make a living in the NFL it's the NFL's decision and I applaud the NFL for saying no. But it's kind of a charade go because they're gonna there somebody's going to draft him yes and probably for the third or they're going to find a way to evaluate him hell I might even be. To his benefit that he died he's evaluated on his own but I appreciate the fact that at least the NFL even if it's some sort of half past PR move. Appreciate it affects the NFL says no. You know it is a privilege to come here you screw up we weren't up. Gonna help you along in the process so stay home. I I observed from who at the NFL is doing and some teams gonna take a chance on him. And maybe it pays off who's the Tyreke kill. The guy from. No he didn't go to the come by and he was it Oklahoma State and he was booed from Oklahoma State for being on his girlfriend multiple times. He ended up going did some small school in Alabama and have fallen in the draft the guy's a star now. In the NFL and it's a weird dynamic I've I've read differ articles of people in Kansas City that. You know some people feel weird about cheering form but ultimately. You know Kansas City took a shot on he's read them yourself he's kept his nose clean I had Telluride to go make a living I just find it fascinating. How. We hold onto it with some guys whether it be. Violence like this are even you know lesser things like steroids or whatever now and it just some guys just cannot shake it. And other guys it just doesn't matter like to be brought up on the tax line in their right. DD Westbrook who is the wide receiver from Oklahoma Joseph makes his teammate. Is it become mine and he has multiple domestic violence charges half what the hell's he doing there then. Welcome to the world of the NFL man and one was was publicized in one wasn't in nuts. How the NFL makes that determination is beyond me but they decided the genomics and wasn't gonna be there and I don't have a problem I don't let bricks charges. To be fair his charges. We're both drop yes so nothing. Nothing went to the system that's probably why Westbrook is there and mix it isn't a you have to have may be at had a a conviction addiction I just. I and I just I will never feel sorry for someone for facing repercussions for something they did. You know it's it's one thing you know if you're. You know once save this kid's not gonna play in the NFL no insane that you you see some of these guys that did Broadway imprisoned on a stupid three strikes penalty you know you see knows. We're guy just twenty years for a nonviolent crime like that's stuff I feel bad for. We should dumb ass threw out a bunch of slurs and you poster girl on the face. About 31 bit any meat comes your way. Well you don't get any sympathy from me and I don't think anyone does but that's not the point door real green Beckham is another one. He was the Missouri kid who at all kinds of issues get through a female student down a flight of stairs to the end up with a come by and he was. He was in the comma and I also wonder I I don't know this rule hasn't been in place that long this is part of the NFL's. Get tough on domestic violence sort of crap. Which DR Phil didn't care about until the Ray Rice video got released. Mean once that happened in the NFL realized there was a problem so well on one hand I'm giving credit to the NFL for trying to do something even if it's a half pass attempt. Let's not give too much credit because the NFL didn't wanna do this stuff the NFL felt like they had to because that a massive PR crisis on their hands. And this guy you know he's right Joseph makes in there is video we've all seen the video now that changes everything is Ray Rice can probably tell you. It's it is true that's that Greg Hardy think Greg Hardy vs Ray Rice if you read through the report what Greg Hardy did look way worse than what rearrested. But Greg Hardy didn't get the the backlash that Ray Rice did. I wonder if there was a video of Adrian Peterson wind being in what was the kid like three. They will toddler now if there is video of a rear of him big ass scary Adrian Peterson sweep being. A little toddler I wonder if there's a different view on Adrian Peter honesty I'll guarantee video changes and it changes everything man. Yeah man all right would you referred Joseph Nixon though if you end up on your team with the raiders drafted him. I would now like Tim makes him but I root for my team now my raiders and I think that's how old agent Peterson might be a raider. How retiree kill chiefs fans per capita drafted him many became really good yet Pete fans have a a way of compartmentalizing. When it comes to these sorts of things and also to either does come a point where he. One thing I gotta let it go you gotta let ago it's like if the guy keeps his nose clean and never does it again. I mean I get a you don't like him he he in it wasn't a mistake even he's a bad guy bad guy but he keeps his nose clean. And never does it again good grief let's let's move on day do got to move on. But to me that's the difference in the cases of like a Michael Vick or when you see stuff like this that to me is not mistakes though well that's your care or moved on from Vick though because Vick went to prison. Yeah any yeah I mean he served you did serious time and maybe that's one years that's what it is a mixes and you like people like act. In really get punished for now. Number of he didn't even get booted from Oklahoma now her thicker like well it's the captain is sick for a year because we think you're gonna be really really good and that's the other part that is just force leap. If you visit to star three star kid. Oklahoma cuts ties to them immediately but it wasn't he was a for a five star kid that they thought was gonna be really good and so they went about forming kept him in school. And if you read why that situation happened that I don't have as much of a problem with what led up to it than the punch itself. He went and try to do it did get some gal to go back and have him perform a sexual act on and she told him no. And his response to a was start making fun of the guy she's whiff. Drug use and about two gay slurs and that's what led to this. Hats and I get that people who say oh he's 18 I am sorry he's not a differentiated twenty Izzy was the team that's just who he attacks. Hurry next Darryl talks and blazers Jason quick up next is the hot five at five the top five sports stories of the day some niners quarterback news. And of the blazers host in the thunder will be ready for that blazers lose another guy for the season on the broke last night for the DA on the fan.