Mar 2, 2017|
More on the WBC, and your first dive into fantasy baseball this year.
World Baseball Classic talk, and Linfield Prof Chris Keaveney joins the guys to talk Japanese Baseball.
Chris joins the guys to talk about Japanese baseball and how it ties with their culture. Also talks his new book!
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You can find that on our Twitter account also continued to induct thump. Play music tonight see of Mike and Joseph and thirty minutes. As is great texture oh my gosh I love baseball I need some baseball stuff. With Kia. We've needed for a long time and it feels really good yeah I agree did you Jim Merrill dead and one month and one day it's opening day. April 2 did not know that April 2 Sunday there three games. They're spaced out there's one a ten yeah. There's one at 10 AM there's one that one and has won like five. Do you matchups com. It's opening day there's all everybody throws their race so this series is heard one of them is definitely yankees rays because I know that because I care. Marcher Tanaka and that would be Tanaka. Imagine the child's return season. Yeah he's raises the 10 AM game giants Diamondbacks is he 1 o'clock in soon give Bob Graham garner cranky I'll watch and then it comes cardinals. It and always mean even when the cubs are bad I always watch cubs cardinals have two awesome one. Yeah that's the opening that opening night and in the true opening day is of course Monday April 3 so one months and one day away from real. Important impact full. Fantasy. Included. Baseball. Will be fantasy and in probably couple weeks of break that down I guess I got a couple dress coming up I'm sure Mike does as well. Next week of big Johnson canticle join us in studio for his yearly preview. Great great friend of the show. I think next week our theme is surprises. You is that the role in ago surprisingly pleasant over achievers you have players and teams we think they're gonna jump bout and I promise you you'll want to listen to big John as he has. The hot takes a ball heart takes in May put his money where his mouth that is. We semite foursome to protect I don't know travel if it had a thumb but in talking about the the under achievers of last year I kinda wanna sliding into kind of a more hypothetical. Kind of fun way to look at it and nine so negative but IE I'm kinda inched sitting teams we think that. Not necessarily were playoff teams last year but teams that either did a lot of the off season or have young kids getting better. That could kinda maybe fall a little flat. I'm going to start with the Los Angeles Dodgers. And I don't know why this team is good. Don't know how they made it to the ALCS last year what or the NLCS and well we discussed this earlier it's generally ends in Clayton Kershaw. But I do not think this team is any good and it. People expect them to compete for the division again. Maybe this is the years that if somebody knocks up the cubs in the first round and they played the Mets over the nationals in. The NLCS that they'll get to the World Series and I think. Your smoke and rocks. I every year I think the Dodgers suck their rotation is gone all every year they prove Iran right. So I'm very our area is atrocious some very wary to jump on board review year but. I kind of agree you like chuck Peterson ha you like to 08. Well I love batting too low he hit until they port it's my favorite let's give a mole credit for a career high significant that. You know and if we he continues to be the head TC isn't I don't care who's played and laughed and he knows they're left feel others. He still Andre eat here on the team. Well as investors on the best website to find them program that they make me feel any better and then who's played second base. Is that what he did not leave bag that makes you feel good hold on all wrong he's suddenly pulled Don. Okay olestra to triple a four cent he's the second baseman bogus excuse me let me take all of this bagged the Dodgers in the World Series. You wanna see the dodgers' lineup. Yet you Roy Norris here yet Logan Forsythe. Leading off hey he's a great utility guy he's like pour may have been Zobrist up. Corey see your batting second MVP candidate like seeger a lot Justin Turner batting third gross. Injuring himself by four I can't believe he's still the league just running around all batting fifth gross chuck Peterson batting sixth extra gross yes he'll plead running seventh. And shoot holes batting eighth and left and Alou what did you just say Andrew Cole who the hell is that. He's a guy who played little last year his past. Oh era this fast that strokes it with a acne on his back no that's the senator from Utah Arizona and I saw that guy play the other day was wearing a T shirt just for the record. Just so you know. British and is fine. They never know you guys finding don't Rich Hill back like you're like all of a World Series maybe we already know back. Making fun of the doubters aside. Clayton Kershaw are Rich Hill cam to my data. Did like I Kazmir and Julio Aureus is the rotation pitcher that could be pretty also to be pretty garbage. True Scott Kazmir could be terrible Rich Hill is most likely going to be terrible. On the Eagles thirties. Do you make you like sixteen year. From Long Island ducks three years ago and they are hearing and and who knows with furious. And who knows who tend to my dad. He couldn't stay healthy last year and people never saw stuff I. Refuted they're gonna be under achievers because Zelaya does awful yet but the rotation I think we'll keep mostly I I think you're gonna see Dijjer Maria's. And did you hear from Ryan and agree your poker shot to three starters have solid there was another team you were talking about the American. He'd take costs Rangers. I like the Rangers a lot last year and frankly elect him two years ago I've eyes wanna Bannister to be the manager of the year two years ago not to step last year. Something about. My gut is telling me the Rangers are not going to be as good as we think they're going to. I love the 12 punch in the rotation with Hamels and Yu Darvish I don't love the rest of the rotation at all I think it's awful. I don't line up looks good on paper but I'm very concerned about the age of a lot of their lineup is this fear that Adrian Beltre finally falls off the cliff. Issued sushi gonna stay healthy is Mike Napoli get a live beyond this year. I hope so and all of that I Carlos Gomez is now 32 and has enough for a couple ideas. I'm I'm a little concerned that the Rangers might be under achievers this year. I'm worried about the staff. Come beyond their mission him yen down there their bullpen was never awesome little pencil and Austin I mean. And Adrian Beltre continue to do this. That's that's my name yeah I mean I mean I am coming closer to the aging Beltre for hall of fame. Conversation I'm getting closer. To that. The alleged bro you're 38. Lake are you really gonna continue to do this is he was excellent last year it was a lot of it. And I would still argue he's the best player on that loop. And that's ridiculous. I know everybody likes a door and adores flashy and sparkly and he's got attitude in. You know he's not afraid to punch the guy that everyone else wants to punch and we love him for it. Of aging Beltre is still the best player on this team and that scares me on the Texas Rangers fan that scares me because he's 38. My gut is telling me despite being the Beltre falloff here. This is obviously deuce this prediction this hot take if you will is purely based on my gut I just don't know. I don't feel it for the raiders this year death last year in the playoffs that crushing defeat where they just didn't show up against the blue jays huh. To me that end that was the team that they have the argument with him like the fight with and it was disposed news intense battle in majors and fell flat. That to me was the sign of oh god forbid the collapse is coming from me because we've seen. Since. What was it 2000 and well as the year they'd tears are limited to and 1110 and eleven since then they've been good. Don't forget we have like one year if you miss in the middle they've been really good since then yeah. A team like Texas doesn't stay good for that long now so I feel like to cliff is coming and that's why I guess I mean they're gonna give me the main under achiever in the American. The only tobacco will keep touching on this because I've got some other clues as well I think with that Texas thing though we expect the Astros to be better yes and it. A lot of people think the bears or at least some paper the Mariners are supposed to be better so that division has gotten better and who knows what Oakland's gonna do well even the angels are sort of Oakland could come around an 85 games next year if they can do that randomly pick who would they probably won't but yeah I think the division hurts that as well with the Rangers still have pro far and somebody asks. I do not see him on their team. Well we are you get here well yet you should be a day when starter I think they're gonna have met first left Indianapolis as DH this has left field. OK but may be first options issues the DH on this but. Could be but yet he's still there but. He's not as good as people thought it was going to be. Let's keep the string going now all we come back little more of people we think that might struggle between sixteen this is the hot corner on 1080 the fan. This is the hot corner with terrorism and Sean Hannity and so yeah. Well last segment for a got to bounce. It's making good. Wander around town and go looking for some to do tonight. Oh the old man is getting back together. Plus untreated women who have earned. Mike smelled like six years actually look at just different names in the different bass players it's almost like here India from partially wrecked. Which you haven't seen yet well I oh I think you're gonna see India from office now. And different parks and rec and healing change the name was badly every episode essentially a winds are being mouse rat mouse rat pack who we played ended triple nickel tonight at 9 o'clock so lawyer cruise on over there in the next twenty minutes you check my can joke. On that route Vernon continue to be under achievers team stuff that we haven't hit yet teams that we didn't mention last segments of the players and stuff so. Still a lot more baseball. Coach you were we kind of mentioned this and left to get in now because I don't think big John skin excavated take it but there's Tressel and their. Were thinking about teams that. Have a little bit of buzz around them we actually think may not do very well we mentioned the Texas Rangers who mentioned the Los Angeles Dodgers. Who's gonna open this can write down save the Seattle Mariners question mark. Yeah. The Seattle Mariners are. Perennial under achievers. If for being honest and do their especially recently. Where people have been like although economic plan I'll still be in contention for the playoffs almost like they have those nasty two words losing culture. Yet and it's almost as if February loves her new GM who I think he's not Perry yeah. He's made like what 600 trees with no last month favorites flashy which I think you should shake things up make everything great so. I mean. I know I come across the guy likes to make fun on the Mariners in scope they do yeah Mike I was gonna say you do like to make fun of them but I actually honestly want them to be good because it makes a team and I can see on TV every night more interest and 100%. So and a lot of my friends are murder fans and I would love right be happy in my hand was just in the World Series and love from my friends that I'd like the buzz in the northwest to be about baseball yes is it hasn't been for awhile and IA and alum John Skinner and I want him to be happy and he's always miserable days LC or John porridge but people love to give. Love to the Mariners may end. On paper they can certainly be flashy. But when I look at the Mariners team this year I see another second or third place team that's gonna miss the playoffs and my do. I'm thrilled that counts is underachieving. Maybe for the height of some people are putting on ensure but. Is to mean it's just more of the same mariners. They're starting. Mitch hamburger in right field the government freed. Dan bull bull market first base is so. So forgive my eggs in Nino still on the squad right. Not a big agency girl Greta great hero and we mentioned earlier and in Arizona last year a comeback player of the year. What's he. And maybe finish in the voting he might have cut are on a number exactly but. You bring in Gerri Dyson and be a speed guy. And terrible hater and here he's gonna hit like. 260 overall race under 92. Best player in baseball. Calm and it investor yes hitter. So. I don't know I I don't know what same her fans. I like to make fun of maravent. The Mariners because it's easy button and issues and others like Americans listening in the site it's a big thank look at November and we're not trying to make fun of you know it's just it's easy to buy it. I know what to tell you I don't think this team is very good well if Felix has a really good bounce back here to help you but when you traded it away. Got talent walker to get cigar and he and I kind of felt like well course finally getting to that point where he was going to be good. And I know it took a long time and it took a lot of ups and downs between two blame in the majors but become a felony bad. And picking Paxton over him was strange to me and Patterson's good. But I kind of still felt like walker had more of a ceiling impacts that are now taxed and I was getting older he's playing so. The exactly the use of him is no longer an argument is now in his quote unquote prime. Right as I think two of the biggest problems the Mariners have run into over the last few years is. Manufacturing. Runs. There's no doubt the Condo cruise and cedar are awesome and long ball hitters especially cruise. Income though is when can no wants to be mean he can be one of the best hitters and based I know is very good last year and it. I think especially coming off a really bad year the year before. So I think that was the problem and bullpen has always been a problem for them now I would imagine. With this gear remove. And it. I mean I don't love the dice and moved by any means but the secure a move that should Tyson couldn't be a starter on the royals and other gonna make him an everyday stuff yeah. IE I think seeger is gonna help that. A little bit it's a shortstop as an artist or some yet so Qaeda help shore that up that infield is even nasty. But minus Dan Vogel bock you know let's let's let's look at the starting rotation you know we don't know what Felix is going to be like. We don't know what you coup was going to be like. And then your third starters James Paxton and many guard got art and you'll funny guy yard hill Joseph knows all about how bad your money Garrett and druze smiley that she got for a bag of peanuts not bad dudes are great you know and then you were not very good and so and so let's let's say let's give the benefit of the doubt that this starting rotations actually be pretty good let's say Felix has about aspect here is excellent let's say you komen does he will cool things in Paxson shows signs of life. And Gallardo gives up four runs a game and not seven game. That would be pretty solid blitz led to this open Edwin DS no doubt flame throwing. Awesome potential closer for many years to come yes OK but now married Judy's name's Dan alta via. Nick Vincent I know him and been scribner. Mark Reid sin ski I know him as well this TC fine and Chris tested and him. He's from the giants the giants starter spot starter that's I believe he has a perfect game. Here. That is not a very good bullpen that's not. I'm still here as very good Edwin Diaz is great but if you can't get to Edwin Diaz what does it matter now average since ski is good. Two years ago I've seen in awhile. He hasn't been the same. I don't think. And then Vincent is a guy who's been fine he's probably at least on this of the guys I know I don't know all the modern Oz but. He's the one I would trust the most he's been kind of the most. It's he's not greater good Asian solidly healed killed Helen Mirren and gets mailings for you but. That's bull pens are important now we were in the bullpen is in baseball. We are weren't able an age where I was trying to get to three closers to end the game and they don't have to worry about starters innings and and let's LSU got an offense like the cubs or. You know I can throw. Ariana and Lester in game seven of the World Series unless you have that in crunch time Bolton is the key right now it is. And not to mention rescind scheme is the only lefty on the team. In the Baltic a summer did you mean well. I guess that's not the end of the world but it's not it's not that exciting you now have no match of advantage other do you still. I did forget this they have Steve he should on the DL who had a better year last year for them so you talk about Steve C six nickname. No I don't exempted the dump button near. But he was OK before I got her less so he would he would. That of crucible alone it's for Thompson yeah I want to steamed he couldn't I don't know what is posted back to that niche inner. Deep in ball will balk and you've seen Major League. Nick guy says hi I'm never even heard of these bleak and guys if there are set and then edit the grounds keepers are they going to be. Crappy again you miss the onion lake that's what this looks like one guy on the bench trashy people priced are more his Valencia Danny Valencia grand wrestle your from open what would you put him. Well first base first there. Over and over vocal book and put in the outfield this is shall worse outfield in baseball yes may be well. Even though the Braves outfielder hit go without before on the look of reds outfield hundreds of them. This will Meyers playing outfield still yeah no no he's sufferers at first is me. The colors were slow on the look that up. Balloon we come back about here yeah in my can joke war bag next week you'll do surprises in the over achievers in big Johnson can make. In the house but first here's Joseph was sports. This is above hot corner where it's very similar and John TN AB I'll stand. He Harris is gone now for the rest of the show going to go do his own musical show dusty purple Nichols. Not the triple nipple as he called the other tie itself. We are doing in the underachieving we hear on the hot corner and will get to the players in the next segment regular later in the segment but. I have to do and exposes. On the starting line up for your San Diego Padres. We were looking at bad teams could read we didn't recognize two names in the mariners' lineup and it's like what lineup in baseball was the least recognizable names. I think the punters probably do. Guys. You know how much I know baseball how much they follow baseball. The Padres have. True. Hitters in the lineup that I know. I was gonna say I know one if you are lucky to be in the starting lineup this year because he had a putrid season last year Derek Norris and that's it no he's not on the team anymore wits. So whom I think in Odyssey he was socially I'm last year but he he don't need all begun. There are two. San Diego Padre hitters in the starting line up. That I know so so far zero for T woolsey's final and you'll know one or two over okay. The guy I know most is will Myers the first base yes or offer for the rays and royals big prospect that hasn't fully panned out. In in the starting third baseman junger missile Arctic. Who we know he's a guy who's actually done a lot better of him. We all expected he would do in a scorer former Yankee which is line and I'm pretty well. Here's the rest. Of the San Diego Padres besides that I text did if you've heard of any of these guys and don't you dare Texan hundred trained and her line. You're starting left fielder. Travis genachowski. And Satterfield Manuel Margo. In right field hunter renfro. At second base Ryan shim. At catcher Austin hedges. And a shortstop Luis. That is the Padres starting lineup guys. Why it is not what. What is hunter renfro bring a tiny tiny little bill though I don't know smallest one I don't know he didn't play last year. He's 25 you're drafted in this first round or to produce the gas so maybe it's just like OJ Namibia hurting them somewhere in there was drafted in the first round 2013. Beyond that I don't know why you would know who he is him Obama doesn't say he was drafted by an average year. So I northwest connection somehow but like I said that's just a baseball names and maybe it's like oh yeah yeah I think I feel like he's. Came across the wire at some point oh what's Google entering. Are you went to Mississippi State. He's from Jackson Mississippi says not northwest ties. And no not not quiet. He has spent his whole career. It looks like in the podger system. It's cool name maybe and he's played our lucky played for you Jean. The Salem Kaiser volcano caps no not them Eugene emerald whose army generals in 2013 and your renfro maybe that's why you know may be but he went to Mississippi State itself. He was jumped by the Red Sox in 2010 amateur draft in the by the Padres in the 2013 ever should end the Padraic. I don't know who is grid is forming your right but. Guys that is your Padres lineup. All my god I looked up PA's expecting it to be the same no the a's have names. So if if you're going in going who's the worst team in baseball this year it's Padres. Well I know why I've heard of hunter renfro. It's the Clemson wide receiver. Aides part they are I don't think they are the same person in any way shape or form or related or any thing and it they were Brothers both named hunter. Vulnerable. George former Mormon him every one of his kids George Foreman by the way this happened did you hear him quick quick thing about that his quote on why he did that. He said if you get hit in the head as many times did by Mohammed Ali and all those guys you could think of many names probably yourself match up problem for her. Okay okay okay we've got some we've got some fans Texan in here. So on that renfro I have heard of them but not he price of as the baseball acumen my. Argo and renfro worked top prospects says Padre fans both really good my early days photos OK that's good. Luis. And does. A Travis genachowski secure for the raiders. Right Chuck Close just like a direct froze the close of wide receiver he has. Yeah I was able I had to throw out their recruiters Patrick before leveling out the combat teams let's secede. I and I'm shocked. That is a real Major League Baseball team all my god. They may be some will become household names that mean one or two of them now there is a guy on the bench who started last year that I do know because his name is hilarious. Corey spank him bird. He started last year. And they've got Christian Betancourt use your brain if Simon map. Are you know it earned it and it only gets worse guys you know they're number one starter is next year. Jered Weaver while. They did just got Andy just taught him. They signed him as free they're new pictures were free agents and all three of them are bad cheered Weaver Jewish or you'll shot seen. And Trevor Cahill. There are other starters Clayton Richard. And Christian Frederick. Oh my god that the Padres are garbage fire a dumpster fire that's the fraternities. Garbage fired dumpster fire garbage dumpster fire of epic proportions they're closers a dumb error Brandon hour. There are dumb fired and hired dom decided on fire spread to marries the starter by the way for the Mariners and now he's a closer for the it's ponting rattle laugh right along ninety wins now now it just doesn't DL but you may have heard of who were pictures touched. And let me tell you something. The Padres wins 5060 games all be proud of. This is so bad. Isn't so bad this guy does say keep Margo and run from undermine compares to draft so all we'll playground stuff at me now my take yeah. Oh look look. I think that Padres fans looking for every reason to be positive about the year and that's okay. Hope springs eternal every year right yeah every year you have a chance. What should Padres this year. Could you guys and nobody's ever heard one are gonna say I love the all the tech center coming in on it purely fantasy implicate not like our guys AMP one says I've heard of Ryan shim. He had twenty home runs Clijsters did you finish your baseball pick up exactly keep Margot and I yeah Arafat the fantasy drafts come fancy ads like. Yes if we're talking about then collectively. What they can do not eat it tissue is not a talker timid guy telling us about the Padres currently. He's just a really good Minor League Baseball follower Bravo to you sir thank you for your Padre knowledge I appreciated his. All of our efforts is a response I like I said their fame the fame that we known for is based off of other people sighted thinking. Sebastian genachowski and reds broke from Clemson dancers on the Padres this year. Yes and some guy who looks like his name is shrimp. That's that's who we've got she and yes Ryan shim that is a very dangerous lame to say. Imagine having to learn to say that every time he comes to bad enough slip consistently wrong and we still haven't gone to my baseball names no no it's on the docket. Though it'll happen eventually like that said every time I bring them well yeah that's of that next retail. We got into the preview don't impeach and then on break just like action on the ciskei totally in its own dirty. And I pass boss man as easily do that if it's their names and I was like I'll say that's. Green I'll realize that only Visser on this tax Austin hedges was a good player and it'll be the show less than a that's all you need to. The Padres to 2017. Padres everybody are coming up next full wrap up our under achievers we put some players that we think. Many under achieved this year in the same light as saying Felix Hernandez into McCutcheon. And Bryce Harper from last year that's Dexter in the hot corner as we wrap of the show onto anything. A this is an odd corner which Harris Sully and John it's an eighty though. It. Whose Texas and we'll say just told the Padres protester gets 541. At both. And then we'll have Bravo. And that is candidates and X. I would really just sought as a second sort of opened up the text accustomed to bring box. We have to get to morally under achieving missile players that we think her I think is gonna happen this year in and Joseph can jump into but. Can you just cheer the audience with C. J. Wilson doing real quick because you blew my mind and remember C. J. Wilson starting pitcher Rangers angels. Was good for a while not great but good. He was great with the Rangers during their kind of back to back yeah there is wrong I would say I mean. Although he was good he's good in playoffs mean yes good is the word all set along I'd just remember he got hurt and then we stop hearing about. Yes so he. Got hurt and then he. People were like questioning his toughness and if he was actually lean on wanted to play because obviously the team sucked but. Thought our article hum some popped up a little while ago that he was quitting baseball. To pursue a race car career. It's like just incredible yes yeah race car career yeah like NASCAR let out NASCAR what circuit in on loan so to me could be anything but don't trucks or something I mean if you try to work his way after NASCAR allowed that sounds I worry if you like Indy racing you know to go and I'm gonna try find the article I'm also renew and tweet here from Ken Rosenthal back in January. CNET he was in the media. Have a showcase. Possibly in February it's a chain or showcase yeah I think. At a pitching Joseph gave I doubt I doubt Ken Rosen balls on the C. J. Wilson beat. Following his every move but ultra and find that article maybe he's trying to make comeback maybe had maybe he will admit I took one or two races and he's like. This is not gonna work I have to sit in this chair the X man hours and so let me get killed out here running an accident snow things. That's a fish that's interest in there you know I'll I love racing so it's it's kind of cool cool connection to sports are like a lot to of the sport like a lot. So under achieving equal wrapping up some of the players that we think in Joseph feel free to get involved if you have a couple guys in the mile under achieved this year. I'm just gonna go and start with. The guy I was most surprised by last year. Who I think is going to come back to earth this year. In that'll be Daniel Murphy nationals second baseman. And Mets hero in the playoffs from two years ago Daniel Murphy if you don't remember. Almost won the batting title if not for the Rockies sitting digital Mayhew for the last three games of the season. It would have been Daniel Murphy LeMay he wins it by one point in the batting average but. Murphy had over a hundred RBIs 25 home runs 347 average. And was a vital part of the nationals offense and keeping them up in the first place in the NL east. I could be so far off base with this but I never thought Daniel Murphy was active. Sure had a great playoffs with the Mets and I'm not describing his last year it was incredible really. I just don't know if he's really that good of a player that's gonna be like a breeding Anderson coming year. More one year with steroids help obviously he gets a 51 home run the result thicket of a player. I because he did a murky being that this year he could still be good but at least under achieving. From 347 made his 280 here's something missile Goodyear but that's underachieving compared to what he did last year. And then just they keep it close to the area and just staying with my team at least I honestly think I'm expecting Ted's seat march from broad dip this year and not have. The impact like he had last year 47 he was huge for them out exactly like I can imagine for sure so yeah and at least thirty home runs but I just feel like they impact in what he meant to the team last year. That they came out of nowhere obviously I mean nightmare fans you know they are like of course market turmoil is doing this now so. I feel like that's gonna be a dip in that the mayor though Orioles. Dated they're holding not gonna make the playoffs I will come to terms with that. And it never know did I just trust me I don't ever now that's the thing with them so well I think Jumbo is definitely have a dip. And I mean had a great year last year but it just not some you can do to twice and I think within. Well we'll talk a little bit about the Orioles next week right I'm almost positive because it's the over Cheever we can last last year the Orioles and over achieved. And lost in the wild card game but over achieve to get their civil talk about the man. There uninteresting team because on paper they don't look back great. But same story every year but folks at Buck Showalter is a good manager and you've got Adam Jones got Gary hitters although we'll have a lineup though us barely have a lineup or not. Pitching staff excuse me so. We'll see whether he'll be interest in them but. It's. It's it it's good to go into a season with no expectations because you're never gonna be disappointed at least. That's sure you can always be hopeful if they suck well Los Muriel who will still be alarmed though welfare country. A woman Patrick habits if you have to do get a chance mission but I wanna talk about it 'cause I think he's the most interesting player double talk about a missile segment here. Is milky bets. Patrick says he thinks and who he bats might have a sophomore slump ish kind of year. Mortar he doesn't. Almost win the MVP. And what's interesting is there's a lot of talk right now. Oh round who's the best player in the American League. Because it's been Mike Trout. And policy to try out but the conversation is. Is Mike Trout being passed. By milky paths. And that's a really interesting conversation has moved you bets last year was incredible. He had over a hundred RBIs over thirty homers hit 318 was Bombay's 36% of the time. Stole bases great fielder was part of the Red Sox for surgeons last year which won them the alias. And as part of the grey group young players for the Red Sox have talked about last week where bets and Bradley and Bogart's amend intending the four b.'s. I can see you know he's he's not gonna be a sophomore insists he's argued in the league for three years. But may be back kind of the year coming around every good player every great player as those used solid press harper last year or so postal great player. The price or try to really Diageo last year McCutcheon. That's little more arguable hustling you might be a great player but he's now had two if you years after some great and MVP type seasons but. I hate. I wonder about who he vets I I don't know I would agree with Patrick is saying he's gonna have that under achieving year but I wonder. If may be a couple those guys are gonna not be as good as they were last year. The outfield trio or or maybe Bogart was great last year and maybe he won't be quite as good but that's that's a guidance that's interesting to me is a guy who might under achieve. I think there might be one can. And I know it's kind of straight might be over thinking it but. Thousands of big poppy I feel like we'll take wolf the perception will kind of go on the other guys are VCU they're gonna lose a lot of attention. Because of him not being there and I feel like a lot of things went right for them I mean how many guys are just Rican last year for you Arab pot I probably might even mean more than what. Just clear signatures of attention yet that it might be searching cheek how from the lineup that goes missing and all the sudden. You don't have. 300 hitter with forty home runs Big Papi suit their protection yeah a big part of the of that lineup form so I think that maybe it's just. Now wool he had maybe come back on all of them in and they'll regress in the sense of green so because that missed a really good teams although bill. They should when the decision and that they should win the division. I'll go pitchers now we got a break soon got to do but. Kyle Hendrix and well earned run average leader last year. I don't know if he's as good as Jake area is or even Jon Lester is if you're gonna make that argument. She might be look at a watch him a bunch Fleischer I'm I'll be open about that I summon playoffs of course but. When you jump out of nowhere and lead the RA and nationally by like thirty points. To me there's got to there's there's going to be a little river Russian this year citing kill under achieved. I also sorry jumping Zach Britton might under achieve a little bit perfect save record. It's gonna happen again. What does it happened late Eric Gagne was the closest to do that today he extended a lot of those stats from the season before even aren't so he was right. So is Zach Britton 1000047 saves MB untouchable again now it's 'cause he gets nabbed a best cy young and it's gonna Kurt I was gonna be good that's going to be the regression yes exactly no I don't think so but. I'd exact Britain might be have a little bit and underachieving year. You could also include maybe. Aaron Sanchez amount from the JC was so good last year and Estrada you the jays staff in general might have a little bit regression. I hope not gonna make more interest in even though I hate them but. They're like the Red Sox 2.0 they are now because there bunch of jerks but it. I like watching them play because they're exciting and interest and so the pitching staffs could well be helpful to. Are the scheduled for today thanks so much for listening once again you can find us on Twitter at 1080 the fan. And Michael is 27 is myself Joseph is that Jo fish three FISE HM Patrick who has. Since left little early today is at Peta these early five on Twitter follow us there. We got us and let us know what you think about the show's about anything baseball wise treated as we get back to you for that. Next week will be given me over achievers slash surprises weekend we will have Johnson can make in with us. As he will be previewing the Mariners and talking about them curious that he's choosing over achiever surprises we talked about mariners on orders politics can be. That's next week enjoy the rest of your week and we'll see them on today the defense.