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To tank or not to tank for the Blazers? Much is discussed surrounding this topic.

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And the weirdest part is like bars and clubs are pained her that think I guess. We people are actually ponied up for her to go do this they she's got like a crew now she. Thirteen G eighty years old. But she's appearing at the cubs and meant every other Prater thirty geez she's thirteen years old cash and then it Kashmir outside. Not my name. What does any written for the I always thought she said she sing. Catch me she is desperate to senate seat as somebody threatened her and she said cash outside how about that bet she's she can't pronounce catch yet we still would famous even though she's a white girl from like Florida she says cash me. Can have that kind of in the club from six to seven. Will this person. Beyond need Dancing With The Stars cast or. Run for president I saw the the list announced yet but did you see who may be running for president. Yeah well. They can be either I I saw someone that said they were considering it because trump want to maybe this is things are you so I think it's the same story. I have weather news in and we do have. Weathered some carry over Suk topics from last night I wrote down earth to. Facials yeah and a David goalie question I wanna have a question about the godfather I we. At least a two seed can we get to yes only question we need big you continued to pile on topics and I think we just need to stick with what we haven't gone to yet I need to ask a question about the godfather is it overrated before I get to David though I need to ask that I'd like every time you say I need to ask the question you're about to ask you summons overrated. Yet and I can read your mind. Certain about that night things can be in this is my point things can be really good things can be great. They can still be overrated look at. I feel this way about hoosiers. Aren't. Later. A we have. Coming up in about ten minutes as some tanking thoughts. You see the blazers lost again and he said after being up for most of the game good for the I would say they are finding new. Ways to lose but they're nine now is losing the same way. Recycling old ways after awhile there's only so many ways that you can do so there're couple things out there about the tank. And I heard one on the stand today that I just I gotta we gotta address these is that I just don't think people are thinking through. What really. Tanking can do and what it really. Is a means you can opt thinking god because it because when somebody says hey. The blazers should take immediately if you like all that's the dumbest thing ever for three reasons or whatever. Doesn't always work out well of course it doesn't always are now that's like saying like the page it's always unsuitable. Need not always gonna get right. The 15 for. Yeah and then I'll say Liu the sixers now did I'd rather be the freaking sixers right now in the blazers agreed. Okay. And then there a couple others I just wanna dress them because. I just think sometimes. Taking in losing games on perverts get the negative connotation. Does that apple people think of the players on the court are the ones that are trying to lose and that's not. And I'm only gains it's just. Just saw what should let out of a little bit yeah spoke out about Saudi next bedroom right now it's time to not find it. Odd jobs out of billions we thought they aren't aren't and there. It's time for the iPod hybrid club smoke pot yeah I'm private Bible. Isaac consumed its experience. To the hot Mike replies replies again soon on 1080 both men. Golf is it. Why don't news yes Jay and the royal ancient they never golf govern golf around the world they oppose many changes. To simplify the convoluted golf rule book and I think Huey even late people who don't like golf. Well maybe flailing you know he played both times a year whatever the gulf review might like this date. So among the rule changes no more penalty if the ball actually moves on to greener if you're looking for a cup players can now putts with a flag stick again. And players can move the ball out of bunkers and if you're not good in a bunker you can take it out of there. And take a two stroke of penalty. Couple that things didn't speed on the game I lost ball surged down to three minutes. And a new rules to make you hit within forty seconds or you're drowning Porter on the spot her. What they're trying to do with it much like baseball or trying to speed of the game and modernize and Fred a younger generation because the gulf and I'm glad they're trying to do that golf is to win them in a little bit just see that served the longest partnership being gulf ended today. Phil Mickelson in Berkeley it's thoroughly gaffe is to build I didn't see that yes it was the longest conversely if you already. Just because that's now at the deal ran out and they didn't do it in favor what for what. Reason but yeah no war still haven't been on the be sure to those changes won't happen right away from now until August 31 there's going to be a six month comment period where they wanna see how it goes they want your feedback as just amateur golfers and they wanted after the but changes if they are going to go into effect would take place January 2019. A good doubleheader tonight in the NBA the cavs are the Celtics. If the trying to put down the godfather one and out. And other rockets are the clippers now here's what's interesting about this you'll see three of the four most prolific three point shooting teams in NBA history. On ESPN. Two night. Did you know that enough now this is based on the three pointers made per game and you have Golden State last year in the top four. The other three are the rockets this year at fourteen point six threes made per game. If cavs at thirteen point one threes made for game and the Celtics at twelve point six threes these brigades plug. That's that's where you. By the way I wanna see Houston angles they've played in the playoffs maybe more so than I do San Antonio. I miss Houston is the one team that may be able to just shoot it shoot their way into the series with them they need and Derek lives that we need. Tonight again and I didn't see him and his LeBron I'll look at them lose a limb meanings here still. Yes Lauren kick it goes here plugs quite dialed the I think we should carve out a segment in the next couple of days for Houston. What we think effusive and he sees possibilities and close to their interest because they're DM goodness they are but it's nineteen Tony nobody thinks he'll build. Who make around. What's Phoenix a couple of times this sixers determinant you Allen dean has a meniscus tear thought to be worse than the first one. This is bad news for Philly he is out for the season again yeah it was I was there to ship him back. Because they need to do some more games get better people. Hopefully it's not something else here cinnamon is this airs this series in general are a big deal but if you lose enough. Are you have enough votes you get down and that bone on bone dig you remember it wasn't his duties this hail damaged. It was just flew down they kept him out for all the signs are. He never what does he had a big minutes into. This evening we came out years police paid played fewer games in his first three seasons thing Greg Oden but he's been a lot better than Greg Oden. Looks like in the good. And help the NFL these Steelers have signed James Harrison to two year deal. And he's at 38 years old is gonna get three and a half million according to Adam she after the patriots are not expected to trade Jimmy drop below which I don't five. We think that as a smokescreen for the patriots yet sitting there just trying to get the price tag yeah. Going cabernet kid and his agent have informed the league that his client will be opting out and that would leave the niners who exactly zero quarterbacks under contract. Maybe that's why should we favorites for the forty years ago monopoly as. Look at it happening stats and I know this is and everything because it wants the miners their offense. Yeah they're not terrible. But there you stats are not terrible last year he had a 980 quarterback rating at sixteen touchdowns and four picks any completed almost 60% of his passes on a bad. And a very bad on this I think he's immature he's. She wasn't this problem bus pulled out on the year the world he went into. Number one night. He'll spend any I mean makes. It clear it was now we'll give what he. Had a meltdown so I think that scares people. But in the league that doesn't have a quarterback to go around he should get some interest. Yes deadly as a back up. And I Kevin Durant of the warriors is out he isn't in CL sprain we love run here yesterday we told did it John John where is it sounds on. Either way I could jackass he tried to draw flop and rolled up in activity during its. They fell on him and as so what determining his given drink has an MCL sprain also as a bone bruise can keep him out indefinitely. They're saying that he's an arrest for four weeks and then be reevaluated before we went with the game number 76 fish. But some are thinking that perhaps the warriors are playing play here and it's. Way worse than me. Yeah I was on espn.com. Today in the there is that the news even name. Stephen says that he had independent source. Close to the warriors who say that this is worse. Now 80s80s gonna take Golden State at their word but never their word is that don't. Reevaluated in four weeks but he was saying that he had multiple sources close to them that thought that this was going to be a lot longer than just four weeks. And that may be the first round of the playoffs is even in question well against the blazers there. Maybe not if the he keeps going this way. Well lawyers did sign Matt Barnes today in the wake of the injury as we reported to you earlier with a really hot Matt Barnes stock. He has spot met and heard stock that dude this is his sixteenth. Move in like what thirteen years thirteen years. Sixteen times he's been shuffled around mostly. Matt Barnes worse than I thought I had a better impression of Matt Lawrence. Okay. That is your hunt led five to take or not to tank what it really means next on the fan. I'm revising and synagogues and. Night and we just Richard Sherman audio coming out. Q how well it goes along with the theme of the talked about a lot of these twelfth my little flap. Little Shea yeah I've Willie stagger its flap with the injured Grice. But a lot of these live in fact. There was a whole podcast is a guy. And she's buried he does yeah. It's second media guru he's he's a sports media mentally used to be a part of radio and yes Sports Radio. It anyway he writes in blogs and yes it sounded a big thing just like a week or two ago on a national level about. And the challenges when sports teams exert any authority over right media bit Qaeda hats that. About sound. Yet he was doing it through the radio lens because it happened in Sacramento yet when one of the radio guys there called bloody diva a moron for the trade of a bogey cousins and then he got pulled from the air but the same thing happened it wasn't radio but it was along the same lines as what went on with means he is sent here. So we've talked a lot about this lately and how athletes and sports figures handled the media and Richard Sherman. Is in a squabble with the media member up there has been and he is doubled down and we have audio and it's just read Dick Gillis. What he's saying. And summer's gonna play it for you hopefully we're gonna have time to sour but I wanna get to. Your taking tanking the tank or not to take. Yet at night. Understand the bit that if you if you are aid if you are against tanking. Since the subject I get a people I get a a totally get it it is not a fool proof method by any means yeah. In ice it's it's 100% see the other side where they say pay. You know like you try to win as many games you can and you deal with where you are in the draft. And draft yeah I understand. I'm not one of those people I am pro tank I think in this league is set up. For you to be more successful if you take. In seasons. Where you know you're not going anywhere. Anywhere any threats if your small market teams and by the way this applies to the lakers who were you know war or a team like that Berkeley and although they don't get the first round pick but. Especially when you don't attract free agents. There's only one way to get better and that is through the draft right and it would behoove you to have the best possible draft pick and that woods. Mean. The worst record possible. Yeah and just got complex it's an idiot I did he Butler scared of that. Well Pete I know I don't either it drives me crazy is like yours to these arguments in their bad arguments. There are good arguments against thinking that most of when you hear bad things like for example the idea that players would throw games net. Euro Long Island nobody saying that nobody's ever I don't even know that anybody's ever done that. What happens when you take this is easy went into what happens when you tank is your management says to the coach and you look at Jake claimant can look at. Pat Conner ten we're gonna pull to shoot on this. If so not too many injuries someone is nursing an injury if someone's been playing by the way this happens. In every sport guys play with a bad back that's not the bulls not a push littler. I you know that's what happened a year you'd let's take some time off with sits down let's make sure you're healthy and you just you kinda right out the season so. A nicely saying it is your franchise is priorities shift yes and it's okay it happens all the time it happens a lot in the league. Now can you lasers in every league what what I would say to you is that the next on the comes out as well. It's a losing mentality and it wrecks your culture did got. The blazers have done it twice I don't know how many people know this. If you're paying attention. The trailblazers did it in 05. Right after they fired Maurice Cheeks. They can't cheeks they cleaned house they put Kevin Pritchard on the sideline they put a bunch of scrubs in in May finish sixth in 24. And what that given do you remember what I got them. Was that the the Rory Aldridge sure. It was not it was the year that they then vaulted to number six pick. And they ended up draft dean Martel Wentz Webster and that's that's the way they could add Chris is right. They got in position to draft Chris Paul they did not they chose poorly Paul Allen wanted Martell Webster bad draft day. But you are that's not the point you are appointee as you put yourself in position. To get a franchise. Changing player he just went I think. Armed wings might have been in that draft too which I know. In there and wins is that Chris Paul but their whims of the very good player for a long time the MB. Here's the second one in the blazers did this in under Neil say they did it in 2013 you know they tanked. Aldridge LaMarcus Aldridge. Damian Miller NIC Batum was he met decent JJ hickson was starting find out here familiar do you remember your picks in year. And they were cruising right along and they had some injuries I think the two men Matthews may have both been hurt. And they just weren't going anywhere. Andy is I think it was this was stops first year and they played Aldridge sparingly now they didn't pull the chute Intel like. Really mid to late march or they lost like twelve over thirty guys in a row yes at the end of the year they lost their last thirteen games Aldridge played half of those games they went Owen thirteen. Because they put in. Of Victor club there and Aaron they put in Meyers Leonard and they put in will Barton and sometimes they had Joseph freeway and rolled through there back to remember they shifted their priorities in those guys and they are out there played their asses off he got to look at club very got to look at freeway and he got to look at Leonard that led to CJ did it lead to CJ McCollum now here's here's what you could say about that let's be fair about us. CJ McCollum was the tenth. Overall pick yet. The Greek freak. Onto consultant went after CJ yeah I remember that. The other guy that went after CJ a couple of pixel CJ was ten in the 2013 draft Stephen Adams was twelve. And Jonas onto to Campo was fifteen. That's the end Andre Drummond was nine in the draft choice under Joe's not yet so Lee Anthony Bennett draft in fact I I. I believe. Are to Campo was the only all star this come out and out of the we think CJ will eventually you know and indeed get one. So. Again now see this is this a B where somebody who is. Anti anti taking what's it will wait a minute. You didn't need to get the ten pick you could've had a Greek freaky fifteen but that's not the point again not like unlike the Martell Webster. Chris Paul thing. The idea is you get a higher tech. And you get a higher percentage of percentage of hitting when you can have either the Greek freak either Stephen Adams order. CJ McCollum you want the ability to pick from those three if you were in the if you were outside of the lottery that ear geno you would had to pick from again the cut off his right at fifteen right after the Greek freak. You had Shane Larkin Denish Schroeder. Who's pretty good little player but they need a point guard. Tony snell Mason comic these are the names yeah we're right and how many years are the three best players and a draft all in the act tender or below. I bet that's got to be it and are all between ten and fifteen I know that doesn't happen as an abnormally we read this that in the days it's all percentages draw the sell any of my top ten that the yet the edit the 75% of all stars in the league now come in the top five. 75%. So that's where you want obesity ideas again not that you have to meet the highest pick possible it is that you need to be in a position to be able to pick. From the most players possible and the lower you go. The worse odds you have to it's plain and simple so they chose CJ McCollum that your so would you rather have. You know a picnic chooses from those three guys are picked where you had to identify the one guy left to get LP yet that's how you with exactly so. Did either of those situations. Wrecked the trailblazers yet did it did it drew in a colts sure did it it's a know that you back years and years it doesn't it's a myth this idea that that. Tankini wrecks your culture. It is a losing mentality is a total myth the only thing it is is Smart that's the only thing it is. Yes now. I I understand the people that say that doing this year after year after year Philly. I guess the next on the let's stop let's talk about that because I think that's where some people or say well where does this end it's the whole pandora's box thing and does this is key you would do I happened in doing this year after year after year. And I don't wanna watch that people don't wanna be the Philadelphia 76ers or into the Houston Astros well this in baseball. OK but let me ask you this knowing the landscape. Of this week. Where it's basically everyone fighting for just to even be relevant just to be even be in the commerce say 7085%. Of the sleaze just fighting. To be realm yes whereas. The warriors. The cavs. The spurs maybe Houston maybe he's made the Celtics are clippers have been relevant. Yeah the year you're thinking that maybe if a break goes your way in injury happens you get hot may be surprised the work everybody else including like Utah whose. Infinitely better than blazers now you're just you're all missing my whole hero you're you're you're swimming in the same pool. Would you rather. Soccer for five straight seasons. And then have the chance. To be really relevant or. Would you rather be kind of good for tenth the and I think this is split I think there are going to be plenty of people that all take the former I would too you. But I think there's a lot of people and I don't necessarily disagree with amber think that their. I wanted opinion I think clearly not wrong I think there's a lot of people that say I don't wanna watch that for five years for a chance. I think everyone would say 85 years and then we're gonna be elite great but there's no Garrett is no guarantee that they'll that's where Philly comes as Republicans in the baby bulls did this member Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry and they went through one of these after the Jordan years where they tanked and they were gone awful. And they went through a couple different incarnations of the young guys and never really got anywhere. So I think a lot of people would rather just say give me a competitive team. Give me a a solid team and may be wreaking growth development and some dean light either bottles Detroit Pistons but at least when I'm pain in. A hundred bucks for a ticket that I'm going to seize on the road because chances are championships not coming here let's not at least this way I get to go see. Good basketball make maybe in Vienna Utah right now it is because they feel better about shell without in bucks to go see the jazz vs what we're we're seeing here are. Sure did you have to be honest and it's not relevant you're not round it's it's you are it's a Google product is relevant in the market you are going nowhere and that's what the blazers have been they're spinning their wheels and spinning their wheels spinning their wheels right yes so I would take. The former of the of what Phillies don't because look when Philly now they're getting hit by injuries in the blazers fans know this well the blazers. Built at the right blaming you had Aldridge and Roy yet noted that it was there was going places it was. But. The real danger is not your fault no wells been heard none of the borrowers hurt although you could say it is your fault. I ignoring. Yeah Roy's sneezing I'm ignoring Oden swelling problems Philadelphia drafted him be knowing that he was heard they draft a new well with a torn ACL. I Simmons didn't have that I don't think Okafor had. Injury problems either so two of their big for the they've been heard they knew going in that neither one of those guys is gonna play as a rookie. So I would rather Zeke is silly to me if healthy which they're not. Is about to pop. With Simmons and indeed if MB to like you said it felt but it's pretty exciting. What Philly just a couple weeks ago when indeed was healthy yet they are an alien had don't have Simmons on the Florida when located ten or they clicked man and you're looking at tackle will wait a minute. In the east in the next couple 23 years there rising up the ladder big time right yeah that's fun that's exciting. Blazes are sitting there eight again that your convert nine again was to get this this guy says F I get that eighth seed. BS if you think otherwise there are some people who just don't wanna watch non yeah like I basketball I get that I totally get it but your franchise. Is going nowhere getting the eight seed every year and if you don't understand the value of losing as many games you can the rest of the way. In what that all mean for your lineup moving what that could mean for your lineup moving forward you're insane you at least have to admit that. Yes because throughout the history of the drafted player that you get to number three through eight is inherently better than the players that you get from eleven to twice. So the thunder did it. Back while than they were the sun except they did it they were tankan and look at what had what that turned into now on the net it is there's no guarantees again got to the finals but Oklahoma City never one moment those guys that they tank to get those draft picks did they got Durant and then they sucked and they got Harden and sucked in Westbrook and sucked and soccer. And a block I I think came in the same draft I wanna see as Westbrook. Or maybe it was the same got disheartening got two of them in one year. But the beauty part about that was they had a good in this is where Philadelphia or may be in the lakers you can make an argument. The the thing about them was they were a good time a young team timberwolves may be is the best example of this. You've got a young Youkilis right got to rant got Westbrook. And your kind of excited about a pitcher not very good he can take your lumps and then you got another. Start to accept your Minnesota you're the lakers right now you. You think is a pretty good young new Q list. And yet both those teams suck and they're gonna get a top five pick. What happens if you land then another young star and you add that to be exciting corn they grow together that's how bad teams become great T. Yes so another Connecticut the lakers than in two years you got Paul George and because he wants to come because it's a lie and then it gets scary. I think this text is right you intensified that you finally get to more of these teams of bad cultures tanked badly it's not the fault of the tanking it's that they have bad management tanker not and I think that's right. Houston. I did it for a lot John it's one the most famous tanks ever and it worked. With the colts did it for Andrew Luck and it worked well. Mean they have their quarterback Avery did playoffs yet they need to put more rounded the cavaliers trade away all or give players. In order to get to get that pick for LeBron they knew they would deliver their pretty well so it's it's not. It lesser known one the warriors did it juggle warriors did it. The year they signed Mike. Mikki Moore. They were 1018 and and jumped up and netted Harrison Barnes. As part of a while but yeah part of the chamber artist either Richard came so. Ice you know and right now here's the blazers are. Blazers lost last night they are now two and a half games from the eight seed in the last where they will go up against the warriors and they will get their asking yes. And it will be in you'll be frustrated. But they're also two and a half games from the fourth worst record in the leak. If the ping pong balls fall your way you'll get the fourth pick. Oh two and a half eagle you're equal parts right now from eight. Against the lawyers who knows may be Durant doesn't come back maybe curry could certainly be being desert into Thompson gets hurt and you wind and and they you're ST thank Houston San Antonio's. And then did targets are also new in the final beyond it's like it's wishful thinking not going anywhere so then you're also two and a half from the fourth worst record in the league so. And a draft that everyone is saying is a really good and really do especially at the top the problem is almost all the top six picks her guard but I said this throughout the day it still NASA if you get along the ball. And he turns out to be your point guard of the future. Then it's finding you take liberty take McComb whichever one that's expendable. And you move will mean you go get an elite front court player and all the sudden you've got a Golden State situation rebounds sector Barack balance out your back court. And you've got a front court player that Dominic. There's nothing wrong with haven't three doctorates that are really really good I think this pick in this draft could change could change things a lot yes see if you get it because it makes one of your yeah you guys expendable and that with you one of those guys on the open market would bring back a huge piece. Absolutely would CJ would bring Brack a also book what would bring back an all star level player we gotta get we're gonna lead to the German ideologically that's tomorrow. But going to Samir thoughts tank or not. Text 55305. I'm his Mike. It's. When I see it. We'll tell you that tanking. Tank or not. Love you don't like the idea paying any give. Us some context for me 55305. This year would be perfect your detained because this team just isn't going anywhere we need talent bottom line hash tag. Tanks city. Yet we have they're guys that F that give me the eighth seed anything less is BS I just think that's insane when you when you look at this franchise. It's just been in purgatory for fifteen years now and I know that they have and it's the same thing over and over you're sold this hope. The reality is not a big shining moment is the last fifteen years. What they won't mean last year. Mean I think so tiger in the playoffs I don't think I mean I don't think I would state run for their run I don't think last year was because the clippers I mean they needed. Ill we don't know why they advanced because two clippers got hurt I did beat the shining moment the big crescendo was Damian Miller shot to beat the rockets. In and they go to the second round. Think about that. They championship teams teams in a window you know. And even blink at the idea of advancing one round but yet it was the biggest thing that happened in this market and how many years it was that the minute they got their ass kicked by this mean that this first showed him okay here's what it's like to advance to the next on the playoffs we're gonna teach your ass is this person thought maybe it was agree is that they kicked him in the gym knows no reverse could LaMarcus had a couple of good games and out series and you know. Blame no that was a Houston series the first again both here in the end you realize oh OK word is to cute little team right. And that's at its best over the last fifteen years right there. So when you have a year. Where you know not even that's gonna happen where you're just not good did you watch them last night yet it's this same crap over and over this idea that their close. Is is a joke they they just are not good to execute Orly which is. Alla they are a bad team OK so when you know not not even Mike oh Hillard. A big of a miraculous moment in the playoffs is not gonna happen you know that's not gonna happen you really not being make the itsy. Why not just let her rip get a look at. Ed down layman Q Leonard extended minutes Serbia wants to see him extended minutes right finally give him 2520. Games to play I don't. See the argument against it this year I do right here every year is definitely it's a good point every year is different. Absolutely I do think there are years where playoff experience. Matters. And end you know kind of building that culture I actually think that matters. But a year where you're that close in the deep draft to having a top five pick one couple. Eerily you need more talent on your roster I do not see a good argument for it this year lower for played out trying to make the HC. Here's texas' I understand not wanting to watch that basketball but I don't understand being OK with continuously watching mediocre basket I don't think you're getting mediocre not this year you know. Yes yes and yes to that text no question and how long has this been going month ago for. You know does that does that Isaac now a majority of the MBA get a G well but so what you know what satisfies people. Is this idea that there's something coming right around the corner guess what. It doesn't come now okay you you did have which is shot with Oden Aldridge and Roy. But in you know I got a monkey you know are you got that way than being in draft yen in and the sky emit CO I think to your point. There really isn't. A good argument on the other side that. That uses as a logical I don't think this year but what I think there is on the other side is just this special fast idea. Now it's just did a steadfast idea they you do not to do that that that is like this guys is taking is totally classless and any trophy won by tanking is worthless. Mean that's how some people on that side are they just it's like no this is sport you urge to compete to win at all costs at. All time was you so what you're saying is the five titles in the San Antonio wonder worthless because San Antonio the year David Robinson got hurt. Shut it down. San Antonio just decided Duncan to be garbage that year and they landed the number one overall pick by good fortune to ping pong balls they were the worst team in the league but they didn't try to win games after Dave Robinson got hurt. And they landed Tim Duncan and that led to five NBA championship. One other thing that likes. This team is not going anywhere with these two guards know it and I know you think that they did maybe they can build on that now they're not they're not good enough defensively. And you're seeing this year that being totally exposed now they bail. Dot opportunities to put more guys around and it sounds like they are not gonna trade either one of them so this is what they're gonna try to build. But make no mistake we just had we're talking in golf over the Internet. You look at the star players that the building block pieces of every team in the west. You could make the case that the trailblazers are twelfth in the west. Twelfth Minnesota has a better young core you toss certainly has a better core in his in his on the uptick more balanced. The only teams that really like the lakers might buy futures in the lakers right now over the blazers. Who else. New Orleans all buy New Orleans elemental. Users you know Sacramento is the one that's got things are south then I heard nothing Phoenix's south and held Denver's done a pretty nice guy that would take the blazers roster over the nuggets roster the point is playing better but I would take the blazers roster point is is a fallacy to think that this team is even remotely close yes it is not to. It is mediocre and actually this year it's badly needed upgrade in talent big but we've seen them play pretty good lead they played pretty pretty well last year so they're they're probably not this bad right there's say the truth probably lies some veteran right in between those two things like which is why. If it G-8 seat if you didn't next year and you didn't let's say you you. You start playing better you make the eighth seed your balance by gold say the first round you end up with a fourteenth pick. Let's say you draft someone that's a rotational player at best. And maybe you you'd dump a contract and in the offseason via trade him green and it I don't know a decent free agent you're not in the lead Frontline starter. Conceived Portland next year you know be you know a a 48 win team beat a 45 win team. And B and thank you said the seventh varied seed in the west. I I can realistically see that. I don't know I just I think if you're a fan but what egg to your point in your sit there watch this is that due on Gannon did she know where. In your paying your money to go watch this team. Hope that this hope of that but the hope not occur at the hope of the draft is what that you need to be sold so you better hope so you better get the highest draft pick again yes if you're gonna sell the draft my whole point which is what you're selling why not sell the hope of the best strap that you can possibly have. Which is the highest pick in you do that by losing games. I think to the tax it is 548 lead back to wrap up the hour with Twitter news on the them. The prime time where eyes against duke on Kennedy though slam. The question today Canadians cannot come Kevin Durant but the warriors pulling for him rooting hard against him or no opinion. My refresh at reducing guessing which guy coming gang and root against Golden State but not root against Kevin Durant who I think that's interesting you know. I don't like during I know we never got to this today and that's why I put that question up there is I want to to spark a topic about. Well I say wanted to see where fans are with him because. You know LeBron I think took a lot of them took to most of the heat telling the steroid thing we're bonds took the brunt of it yeah. And then everybody like bonds. Is a villain Clemens is a villain but you're Jeff Bagwell bags and I yachts that. Even Manny Doleac. No one cares about me and ram and it does seem likely to Red Bull team. For as you know the super team had no one seems to really care about that side I walked in but with LeBron they did they killed him. And a lot of it was how he did its results in thing but yes I just wanted to gauge what people think of Kevin Durant now they went down our people like ha. I'm posse how many people are so I don't think so either so that's why no one wanted to put that up there and I wanted to have that conversation but. Even interestingly enough we got stuck on Matt Barnes talked in other pets today the other weird we're in the NBA that if you wanna wrote this and you don't IE. I and I hated guy. I think he's the most agency story in the NBA China. Came charging hard and I hate to admit it. He's awesome but deep down in my soul I have to do my favorite team to watch this year in the NBA when is the use because they have the best often in it just. Innocent eyes with the U I I'm with you I can't. Reconcile that in my head that IA secretly EM polian does anymore I've openly pulling for the use the rockets. Oh well I think I would be I MTU. And that is weird because they're beautiful they're like the clippers easily treatable. But. I'm pulling for Dan Tony. I think he's scared yet end pentium finally shut people well I just love that. He's bold man and he. Daryl Morey got to give him credit for hiring d'antoni a lot of people said off. You know that's desperate that's never gonna work movie James Harden to point golf I heard. He's impossible to stop there impossible to stop yeah that's and that's so it works. If I could see one matchup besides gold they Cleveland finally people wanna see the you know the Ollie Frazier thing let's see round three get the rubber match that. In the few conferences the one series that if I could wave my magic want India it would be Houston and Golden State. I've I desperately wanted to usage right out shoot. Golden State because they're the one team that I think may be able to do it maybe be may be able outscored I think San Antonio get run off the floor. With their athletic schism. But I wanna see and I wanna see Houston run up and down and shoot threes them see what happens soaking and really the worst pulling for him to win the title rooting hard against him or no opinion. No opinion when his football wins. Forty some percent Smart asses. Citizenship Kelly 37%. Rooting hard against him. 16%. Pulling for him to win a title. That's interesting. Yet I wouldn't mind seeing her win a title I but I don't wanna see golds they get another does his legacy in the sunny want to will push off to another David. Does to rants legacy. If he wins on the school in state. Does it hurt his legacy. Because he bailed Oklahoma City to get it no but. We will talk about this more tomorrow I don't get hurt sit but I don't think that the ring validates it like it did winter when Dirk won one as like our. They're noted wanted to consider Dirk one of the four or five best players of his generation. But Dirk won a title and it was like all right well you kind of got to give it to him I don't think that this title does that for direct. As great as years I don't think it validates his career like a title has done for many people along I usually want. Or you know that I'm trying to think of people that that by the got Oklahoma got when Dirk is the one that jumps out my mind. And I don't think it does it for Katie because he wanted you Ingle state are the club does next the Dancing With The Stars cast I never watch that show. But who. I was let it in the cast is announced because the celebrities get worse and worse there is slip easily Sturm but there's one Mazar I may tune in for. This year and who is gonna run for president no lol weather news to all kinds of stuff coming up here on in the club next on the fan.