Mar 1, 2017|
There's so much NFL news today, AP, Charles, Revis cut...talking Romo and older QB's.
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Yeah well see we don't know committed in the club annoyance trying to give me to watch show I wanna remind you of and I'm assisted in this. What else we have we have you David both question yeah we never did get to the David though we think and Ed Google. In honor of them announcing YouTube TV today which we RD discussed and there are also expanding their ride sharing idea. In and I want to present to you. You know. Mr. chairman rice together. Well there ideas quite intriguing. As they try to take on Lugar and lift. And it's come at night there they're doing it through waves as they only use yeah and now am I wonder if if if you'll catch on. So we'll get to that coming up in the club now sports lies and mean idol. Data are gotta got them out about some white balls connect to call you back. This hour is trash talk dead. And they thought about that much well one NBA player thinks it is. And Ellen Delis in a film is where early Jim Peterson go willingly want him. What what is skins do with Kirk cousins but the niners do give it 24 million dollars is what they're gonna do tones rounds Nady hit the markets in what's gonna happen with him another big NFL released just happened to. Minutes ago all my god what a great. You disease. Let's get to the hunt cited tonight. Odd topics and opinions. We've already own pocket and there. It's time for the iPod hybrid club smoke pot yeah I'm private vibe. Isaac and soon it's curves the puck might reply to replies again soon on Kennedy's spokesman. It's number five. And you voted not to the cams. Thank you be think news. Or is it. Well I think I heard Mike Lynch report that happened in this weekend yet. That's the story foregone conclusion and then there was the minute or was there yes it was considering the rockets and spurred this fake news or use considering yes Boston. Fuse substantially equivalent but it does sound like now he's agreed to go to the cavs on the Deron Williams yeah where they will low. Not making much money but there are beginning paid a bunch of money by former teams he's Deron Williams. Like his contract situation now Williams is making millions upon millions of dollars and knowing Tennessee squad for the least I mean we cavaliers. But he gets his money here is my name hey daisy parents and also tonight Kevin Durant hyper extended left knee as the warriors are in Washington taken on the wizards. He is going to undergo an MRI and he will not be back in the game tonight. Mayo got it I mean this we all think that it's a foregone conclusion that. One injury. Or in jail if I heard from grant other conceivable a real fast. It was not really the judge. Julia and Julia fell back and kind of hyper extended. Nigerians left knee he didn't jog off but went to the locker yet has not. David Wright. Mets third baseman and yes he is questionable for four opening day he had surgery in June to repair a herniated disk in his neck or mouth. Is a shoulder muscles or not. Firing yes it is not going to be able he's he's been settled for spring training he's not going to be of the growth remember we. Given right is no longer a question we'll. He did the right he's just questionable for the game. I spirals that noses get in there and spinal cord I was a big disease in his thirties type 3334. They just need to let it go. And I get it David Wright was one point good but they do you like he's Derek Jeter and now. Just stop let it go dressing Josh Hamilton added that. The president turned he's done back in particular bit of guaranteed deals making 24 million dollars this year who Josh Hamilton this. What is the million dollars and the angels are paying 22 million Liaoning. When that angels thing clock yes they're giving him twigs you million dollars to not play for the Texas given Google's thirty yeah. To suck it imposes all right delighted that they sent. About the amount of money being paid to pools and Hamilton had and you wonder why the angels are very good one other baseball men at the end nationals game reliever Joseph Blanton on one year deal. In a nice little 2480 Arian semifinal appearance for the Dodgers a year ago. I use it from their kids in his full set of teeth or leave the blazers tonight in Detroit against Andre Drummond. And no right now the blazers do you have 82921. Lead don't look now but garrison interior defense you play. That's how I stop that's. Evan Turner Dennis cancer may have done this hand so he's getting closer it's probably been an answer maybe nine appeared. Take city you know if you're looking for some hills the blazers in Detroit I think blazers just last I checked there are just one game. From the eight spot in the room. This game and a half now from the aids on the left but they're just need to gamers need third worst in the way. The detail whichever you want to go and I think you know where it goes out the clock that's. It's still there. The University of Oregon is writing a new policy that would make coaches disciplinary records inaccessible. Under the Freedom of Information Act lines. So. For the past 46 years public university faculty records are a 100% off limits to public inspection and I cannot look at it. So. Under this new policy during constrained it to get by coaches. And 14100. Or against staff members will all be characterized as officers and administration has called a ways and that's basically what fat tears. So some think this is hard line for cover ups others think you know you most on is saying that he we've always treated our own ways as faculty. So they're now trying to put coaches under that umbrella and so he used it for real practical. An example that DUI four on David Reeves. Under this policy you would not be able to let any link to media could not go in cities into my old yet easy details of the new separation agreement. So many think were against trying to be slide out this kind of by including coaches and others say hey look it's just. You know it's just it's procedure but it's I don't know where I stand out that well. There needs to be if if football coaches what we can talk about this more Internet sex. There needs to be some transparency when you're all right now get there they don't have Lincoln or Willie Taggart is some window Willie Taggart yeah right now we're again. They don't have to release. What happens disk materialize we can file let them do mediation yet you can go file for the Freedom of Information Act annual Kennedy become public record because you have to prove that it's. It's of public. The public needs enough yet they are a public employees. Threat but they're now trying to filed coaches and faculty. And it's indeed that he records or never and they've never been able to be touched like for example the floor again. Law professors addressed. That went Halloween in black male athletes we don't have to because nobody knows what they did what they did disciplinary vilified like if this is fast anyway number one is and what time is. OK it's five tall tale what does is going to be an unprecedented move on my part or you break on time I am calling in Omaha. Here's the deal there's so much NFL news today very comfortable about and it's all number one on the hunt by the five were already up against the clock while he's come back next and we can lay out a nice GC segment talk about all the minutes the number one is that big juicy NFL segment will be next yet that's number one Kirk cousins gets the franchise tag. Are we now have the highest paid safety in the NFL agent Peterson is on the market and as you mentioned some late breaking. Veteran. But the news here in the NFL selected but it happens to all of that coming up next it's 513 on the fan. AC heated. University of war games. Policy that the trend right out yeah. I would just say eighth. That anything's. That allows them to withhold information he had doesn't sound like a good deal is not did particularly when it comes to football. Coach is just in general I think when it comes death clinics I think there's that natural tendency to the cover up to try to get away with something and an in. I also feel like even if there isn't something going on it makes it feel like their youths you know already there's that there's too much of that cabinet. Athletic department against the world sort of mentality. At universities. Now like that they should be transparent and makes me a little uncomfortable. OK so here is here's all the units on the news today the late breaking news about. A veteran cut is too Rel regency Hydro Revis is officially let go of this comes the New York Jets drove Reeves is one of the greatest players everywhere. A Woody Johnson by the way the owner speaking years it is a combination of talent preparation instincts is rare. How to become the most dominant players in this generation I appreciate drills contributions to this organization. Wherever his career takes in his home will always be mere -- the jets hopefully is true does not take him to prison is he is staring several felonies in the face. But it by the way he was gonna get cut regardless. This was you know that did the charges facing him. He kind of force their hand but throughout Revis is a shell of what he former was. And was make in twelve Mel I think this year the key was count against the cap something like that. You knew he was gonna get ago so he's 31 yes somebody give him. Outlook depends on what he's gonna have to privately safety as opposed corner. In short he does play chorus got to be an assist on the play zone it's no longer Revis island he can't play in the slot. He's gonna have to play for a third may be a quarter of what he was making and he's gonna have to say out of prison so there's a lot of I think there's a place for him if he's willing did. To do those things but no one's gonna pay him ten million dollars a year to come and be a bad. To below average. Quarter in the NFL. Kirk cousins I guess this is the first time this is ever happened. Where quarterback has done a franchise tag two years in a row yeah. Is he its tag now there was stuff floating around out there that it was possible that he can be traded to the niners to remember he played. For a Kyle Shanahan in Washington Shanahan Celek coach of the niners so and then make today who was is often supported for the last two years. He's with the rams down there are some thought that maybe there'd be. You know Jered golf and some draft picks maybe they were try to go out and get them and the Redskins did say that they would be willing to talk but they would have to be. Quote blown away yes so. Then came the news a couple hours later that that they did did franchised him yeah and they give him what is called the exclusive. Designation yet. So that means that no other team can negotiate with him. Without Washington's permission so they now had exclusive negotiation. What a window here until July 15 to work out a deal now he is going get in British or self. Kirk cousins in Miley his numbers. His numbers or did yes like Jordan years they've been released into some of his numbers here in a second I think you'll be surprised by by Al. He stack up to address leak. But still I don't know these north this. He will this year be paid 24 million dollars in last year he got paid twenty so he basically will have played out a two year. 44 million dollar record deal. For the Washington Redskins here's some mind line. Now a case of go back to the year where he kind of became onto the scene. And they're like who we may have some in the Sky Dayton but there's no way we're gonna lock him up now we don't know he needs to prove it. This is the year before they tagged in the first time via. They could've signed him. Right. At that point probably 1011 million a year yet probably that low you'd think. The Danny goes out any leverage Vinny has the big EE his he lives up to the hype any has the one year the franchise series again eight damn good probably could assign him at that point for probably fifteen year yet. Now. Two years 44 million and if which will not happen but if they were to tag him again next year just can't come to terms on a long term deal. He you'll make next year. 35. Million. Dollars so they were leader trade him or they will sign a long term deal was I so it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me if they side won before July 5 so three years 78. Million which would shatter the NFL record. For the most guaranteed money in a three year span. Kirk cousins. Just by going the route. A being French I. And he's happy to do it in fact most people when they this has worked out for himself have most of what they give fridge as they get up hissy about it today on Twitter he said tag I admit that you. It is like actually play for a mil. Still this probably get an extension. Yeah I think I think the most likely scenarios Washington comes to terms with them yet I do like him the only reason Lenny always for far less than 24 million a year the only theory did you could have anymore is that you know Shanahan and make Dave Ball very good quarterback guys. The people that he's worked under you know is there a fear now that they're gone I think Kerry Cavanaugh who is their quarterbacks coach has been been promoted Doocy. Maybe there's a fear that it did now that those guys are gone that he's gonna come back down to earth but it. Mean at this point you've you've two and a half years aren't aren't Kirk cousins and his numbers are top five top six in the NFL in most categories. Here's some of his numbers. Last year he was number three yards. He threw for more yards and Aaron Rogers yeah and if you would know that. I he had a quarterback rating that was better than Andrew Luck Derek Karr Marcus Mariano and Ben Roethlisberger. To seventh in the NFL quarterback rating. The year before he was fifth. In quarterback rating he was ahead of Drew Brees Aaron Rodgers Marcus Mariano Ben Roethlisberger Matt Ryan Cam Newton Derek Karr had a volatile yeah. Since mid season 2015. He's the highest paid pat highest rated passer in NFL. No one has been better Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers. Over. Mid season 2015. Through all of last season. Any wet. He went nine and seven and 87 and 11. Of those be the playoffs he. Writes he's won games I know it's not. You know you're you know win in thirteen games you not in no give in first round byes but it's not like they have been hollowed numbers. He's already did their he's he's pleased pretty good and I think that. At this point. You have to say that it's not a fluke yes seeds Ernie he's earned his money yes an. Also one other note he was a fourth round pick you know Hughes picked. 102 over all data about Michigan State Russell Wilson was picks seventy fifths Luther embassies take after Russell Wilson. I've not seen draft him. Think the many. Only two quarterbacks. Have a winning record and at least 4000 yards the last two seasons to. One of them. Russell Wilson the other Kirk cousins and so let's all stretch and in regional the first Olympic bid does interior for sure agree in this year's draft. Well I mean at some at some point you have to argue. That this guy is as good as so I think this is this is likely to pull question up today. A reading. A comparison to Cam Newton Andrew Luck I'm Derek Karr Martin. Maria. C nine I wanna come Arianna who are smarter and our it. I'm area and at some point. You gotta kind of putting me in those in net in that class dungeon yet he's put up better numbers than a lot of those guys. I don't know that I would take Heatley view gave me Derek Karr him I'm taking their car if you gave me marionette or him. I'm taking marionette if you gave me antilock certainly teenager looked at the same time thing you look at those numbers that he's out playing these guys. This is and it's not like Washington is is this sport heat method is just surrounded him with withdrew lean level talent however I might take him over Camden. Its interest I think campaigns overrated Cam Newton day a year ago known what is said that easy. Took a team and put them on their back when Super Bowl was the almost the unanimous MVP they say it now. 'cause has been a lot more consistent than that down anyone's from the pocket. And some people are concerned is is new and utility won't be able to two run around as much. The gate it if you're washing I don't know what you wait for at this point sign a guy. They just don't like it franchise him. Because now they get him to July 15 in order did to figure it out but all I'm willing to guess that he gets a deal done a long term deal yes and he's not gonna get point four million tell. July 15 like it out when that kicks in jazz until they got her aunt and. Or you know maybe there. Maybe in this quarterback league if they don't really believe that he is all that a bag of chips may be they're gonna shopping obtaining. See I would I would look at that and see what kind of hall you can get form because he's good but he is gonna command like Beers agent. You look at his numbers. Why are you not asking for 29 year he's going to OK so. Eating dinner you only to paying now because it after next your you don't really have. The choice. I mean if it doesn't mean all leverage next year goes to it to 'cause it. Because either you you let me walk and you get nothing out of its or. You franchise tag me and I get 34 million dollars he he has all the leverage after this year. They have to deal either come up with a deal for an or. Or work had to deal just plain again on this franchise tag and waiting till next year it just makes no sense your leverage is continues to go down. Unless you're betting on him being terrible. And why would you bet on your quarterback being terrible. That's that's an awful message on the part of the front office is David do note this game is Tina franchise tags do you think that they if they have the choice they go back and not. Yes but at the same time at the time I'm talking I didn't time as a bad this is like it's not a bad decision to franchise him because you just don't know what -- him and I think it at and now you did you do you don't at this point if you don't then deal because you're gonna get a whole form a massive haul. And if not if you think that that he's the guidance idea. You know and see if you can get that down 120 million well I think it's uncomfortable pain anyone in the NFL twenty plus million dollars. But Ed at this point you made your run out of options you may have your rolled the dice and and again he's earned the money it's kind of like Antonio broad deal. Pei Antonio Brown what what the Pittsburgh Steelers did you back yourself into a corner and he earned his way into that deal and so my note was gonna give it to him you kinda have to. I don't I've never seen a player. It's not luck he like he say he earned it I just never seen a player. Have everything work out for him the way the way this has like that dude is in the driver's seat design that. The rams and niners as you said his former coordinators are head coach is now NBA bulls would. Love want him so did the skins now have a pretty good spot at their d.s a spot too because they can probably charge or load. Two traded Kirk cousins are sitting back right now and just smiling and even if something happened this year and it wasn't completely hunky dory. He got 44 million dollars guaranteed over two years and that's more guaranteed money they'd just about any deal like Eric Berry just became the highest paid safety in the league. You know Eric Berry's guaranteed money as they ended the details have been released but you know they always get Lee they're saying it's between 3840 million guaranteed. Over the life of that deal cousins made that two years guaranteed. Indy even more than that he made 44 million guaranteed every two years so even if it doesn't work out from here on out. This is been. Easy he's already taken care if he's got 44 million dollar. In this text as the best that did we ever ever think we would say it must be good to be Kirk cousins holy crap yeah. Look at that look at sports who sportsmen are OK so I he gets franchised. On the cheese today cut Jamaal Charles he's done pretty much love and he wants to go somewhere like he's a reclamation project new Englander. You know some like that where he can be a spot player and again make it incentive league deal and as you mentioned Eric Berry is unionized paid 66 years Ximian million. And forty guarantee needs Tony we know are assigning must the other thing that happened as a Jim Peterson. His option was not picked up by the vikings he'll hit the open market what will be the market for him working he'll land. I'll get to that next here's Mike thanks to be released next week. Like twenty million dollar cap hit. The cowboys will then have the option either eat that all at once they can spread out over two years. The nice par for the cowboys is is that poll back in and Elliott are on Ricky deals. And don't count that much obviously against the cap so that helps them if they do you have to swallow. That entire Tony Romo deal with it like to trade at but no one's going to yes so he may. He may be. Well he will be on the move up and down I saw a list of somebody put together a list of stuff. And it's a free agents but just in trade or free agency of quarterbacks. Who were over the age of 35. Who have moved on. And they were all quarterbacks they have some statistical parameters like these these are good quarterbacks not like journey on Mitchell or some. Third year backup in Tony Romo fits. These statistical categories. And listen to these names and these these guys all faired well once they moved on after the age 35. Oddly many. Joseph Montana won a super bull although it was very cute and William that he was gay. Yeah I remember those old honors in Denver it will hold on here's the thing with Peyton Manning. When he went to it Denver it was like man this guy we don't even know what you're gonna get because of the next surgery broke it was really really good for two years yes and then it fell into it fell off and on the Montana led the chiefs to the playoffs Montana did lead she's the class he was older Vietnam. He was he was he was he still had it. Brett Favre Minnesota damn near got into the Super Bowl. Warren Moon. He went to. Alice the end he's bounced around I don't remember what he did at the very Seattle I'd have to go back and look at his numbers. Drew Bledsoe. Yemen and finished up in Seattle and soon went Kansas City many of the that was his last stop was in Seattle right well mean the weary played. After Minnesota did this dressing pretty decent. Not terrible. Is almost 4000 yards almost 4000 yards 35 touchdowns sixteen picks 83 quarterback rating for a delayed a year it's he was 41. And if you wanna go from the if this goes from the 35. Year old does he was good Minnesota. At 35 using Houston so so actually. His talk this is what's wild enough or mend his time in Minnesota. Began when he was 38 to east India and you mean yet in ninety had a season there were getting 91 quarterback rating didn't like crazy you know warming was released I don't remember him playing for Houston as long as he did know he played his whole career there and telling us 37. So yet meaning he went to Minnesota in two and Linda. And then Kurt Warner. Got rid of the resurrection whose careers seem like it was done in New York that he goes to Arizona baca met lighter and damn near wins the Super Bowl so a daylight if you want to go getting added this this is. This is pretty rarefied air when you have a guy this good Tony Romo. Who is so who's available and he is going to be available to question is. Any stay healthy that's really the only question yet but if you look historically in these are all of the guys these are just some examples to point out that. Good quarterbacks. Who leave after the age 35 have feared damn well because good is good and Tony Romo is just yet when health. All right but again same thing was set about Peyton Manning. Men. And some people asking about the whole I like cap situation so. When you cut a player you're only responsible for the guaranteed money of the contract disciples the guaranteed part. So what's ever left on the contract. That's guaranteed money you were responsible for either any one year here where you can spread it out over two. So just some people bass that over the course of the day as we've talked about this. Leg Darrelle Revis has about five to six million in debt cap money when the jets cut him but he was gonna count fifteen million. Against the cap had they kept himself. Yes it sucks to eat six million bucks for guidance on your team but it's better than paying fifteen million for a guy that's not very good anymore. So with Tony Romo Tony Romo has roughly nineteen to twenty million lifting guaranteed money. And when the cowboys cut him they are responsible for that. That doesn't just get to go away. Tony Romo is already being paid that money and again they can either pay it upfront one year or spread out in take two years at ten million. Hit against the cast. Here's the million dollar question. If you're Denver if you're Houston. Insert other teams adjusted and a quarterback. That are close of good kids. Teams else. Did have good defense is an error in a window not like the browns yes do you go after Tony Wragge less than ten million dollars yes. Same thing that you're Peterson. If you talk and in that net six to ten million dollar range G Peterson I wouldn't touch then I would I would I would pay you would pay six sentry Jim Peterson. I would pay ten with a Adrian Peterson with wrote. I would pick Ted I don't intend rounds firfer Adrian Peterson I think I'm paying semi breezy up paying more for Omar is eat just don't know if he can stay out out the inside that scares the hell out of but. Because it's been otherwise get more it's been the back injury that's that's heard in the last two years and that doesn't to me get better that's something that just scares the hell out of me. So I'd pay ten for Romo and for eight peak. Forgive him for my fortify is I think is probably pretty fair deal and that if you wanna do some incentives and again that to me is more the fit. He's not a dull cal for me anymore far from it. But not to me would be fair deals if army contending team for both of those guys but Romo. Far more interest than I would Adrian Peterson I think Tony Romo has a better chance of having. On a bigger impact on team and Adrian Peterson does at this point his career on the question I mean Peterson not I don't know what there is to like really menial and played three games last year. And the year before he was pretty good for Minnesota to the before that was that was when he played one game yeah. I'm so he's he's gone down hill is 31. He'll be 32 I think when the season's start he is averaging one point nine he had 37 carries in Zambia one point nine yards care yes and Minnesota now people I consider that the Minnesota good offensive line one minutes it was obviously I was decimated by injuries. And it's a better run blocking line and it is eight pass protecting line. It wasn't like he was playing in a garbage off it's it really wants Adrian Peterson was not. He was not good before he got hurt. And I don't know I'd I'd have to look at what happens to 32 year old running backs but I ate. Our big gene count on one hand the amount of really productive impact seasons that he 32 year old running back has coming off. Another major injury I just. Began three years 11. Yeah and that's he's it was it was amazing the guy was an absolute stud. And that but you look at the others who thinks they know if you know or. He fits best in their allotted a rumors out there Kansas City Denver. I Hughes then he's talked about the giants Tampa Bay a gap Oakland Green Day I think he fits doesn't Dallas. Where Dallas is signing for pennies on the dollar yeah I think Ezekiel Elliott still their main guy. They do like to ground and pound behind that offensive line would make a ends and let him be change change of pace guy like I mean I just think that would be. That is where he fits other than that. Anybody trying to sign him to to carry the load is asking for. Either that or the other one that I like is the newly Garret blunt in New England we get what had eighteen touchdown. And the gear on Stiller those yeah league you're beloved plays in a real. What when he's in the game New England goes to more of under the quarterback. You know short yardage kind of ground and pound gain form and an offense sort of thing. Adrian Peterson to meet could fit very well and that and then when they go to the shocked and they go to the up tempo stuff you've got get a Baxter common installer but. You know knowing that gonna give him a three million dollar deal and his Adrian Peterson at this point have the it's out of it did keep with the ego aside. And take dad to go be a role player doing an inch Acer. Is trash talking dead next on the fan. Right time where Isaac can sue productivity growth it goes onto and then NBA pregame show. Dennis in line. On the ABC did today yeah over the weekend. Produce blank. Clearly room for growth and we innocent time he has put it on the channel and Alia your mess and on your iPad or something happens to me all the time where you're cooking. Cut part of the bachelor. Because of that these Aaron yes. And I kind of glanced up and the bats and somehow they were rolling around in the mood you're ranked I don't know what was happening and I had no context rose happen embed. You're like motor Grassley and good. Is of those deals three photo channel you like I really want to launch any thing I'm not committed I'm dismiss their own computer yeah there's some tendency just leave it on sports. Well the game was coming on today they had Michelle bead on there. And I end up watching Jackson billion Watergate he its Zune Michael will bond was on there and they had Paul Pierce. Okay the truth the truth. Rock chock. And he was on there and they were asking him about his flap with train on green it and I am which we talked about here on this broadcast. And he said that. That. He actually started muse really cool that he was like look I poked him. Nobody saw this part yet. We only saw the dream on green hey you know Coby got no love you lay there while to get no farewell tour is pretty get bit pierce said he started when he said that green. Wasn't good because. Blake Griffin backed him down and her rundown for them out in pierce was yellen from the bench the only green like did you can't guard him so that was greens retort OK but he said and they were asking him about this. That trash talk is dead he said in the NBA because he's a he's a notorious trash soccer tournament Venus do. And they asked him outside of those two guys. Who else. Talks in the league and he is like two no one really he does the new trash talk in the NBA is. The mean mug maybe the steered you know. Some social media. I like member of the CJ McCollum. Pass the exam their partisans that's the trash out and that's how guys trash talk now. Any said that back in the day. You know that's how rivalries formed was. These you know dig you got a team that was upping your kitchen in he started talking trash like the glove yeah Gary Payton. Knows guys love Jordan Miller I guess one of the all time greats was Larry Bird I guess bird you'll. I guess my favorite is my favorite piece of trash the bird every talk was Byrd was offended when they put a white guy. Of course birds started young enough remember who the coach was that how did you put this mother F and white get eye to guard me I would need BA don't put a white guy I'm young Larry Bird. Yes so they got under whole discussion about it and in Pierce's. Commentary Lewis was about a you use like did these guys all grow. As buddies the first of all and you know they're all friends and he says that you know. Think he's one of the last guys in its true. Did played in the parks because you know he's old now he's almost it was high cost of forty. In any used to be the you grew up playing in the parks in the cities and there was trash talk galore. I've and muttered just talked about that is that like growing up late kinda had to have the edge. Artistic themes he tells story about the guy they got stabbed in the heart with the scorers table and it. Yeah and when he broke he was kidding neither know that really have we looked it up the other good one is when Jordan was attempting his comeback. I think for the first time with the wizards Jordan was trash hockey run our test ever Marquez broke Israel and run or just pick them up and peaceful him. I get us it was a different it was a different game different crew yes and they seemed so much tougher than you know. Yeah see you mean even look at Larry Bird who does not look tough and all the guy was but he was at his best. Paul Pierce by the way 39 years old Yang is pushing for you couldn't he he's out. I guess and I thought about that but yeah they you circuit and the other one about the eight year old is too is spoiled wins and losses don't really matter. Like it's. It's it's more about your individual self like he played forty games over the course of a couple weeks. Wins and losses don't matter much anymore it's more about trying to gain exposure in. He said all these guys kind of know each other in some people think that that is kind of killed the competitive nature. Of it to begin with let alone trash talk. This Tex says and you can now text our program. And 55305. So maybe now the game will come to complete halt to Geisel stand there without their phones and in a violent manner start texting trash time. It is true that that does seem to be the way that so any time go about it now this is this one says hey why not. Like trash talk on the court we're nobody can year why not. Trash talk with where we're Twitter followers can have your back. Yeah making all see it. But he used to be like will or will bond a sense of pride. Yeah will via bond made a good point on their he's like that used to BYU get courtside seats via courts I'd seats are extremely. Expensive for the NBA that you can hear well when you're down there you can hear everything in it's pretty interesting. And now it's like. It doesn't exist. Oh I remember like back in one of the also against the number of years ago I can remember that there is he's Mike up you can hear it but Kobe Bryant. S talking LeBron James for not shooting the ball on the all star game. Again you member that like Kobe browsing you'll even shoot and this is that you get a pass here at the all star game like bright was one of those guys that would rip your heart out on the court and tell you about it. But yeah there is it a whole lot of that anymore. Does this thing. Yeah Peter says trash talk is dead. And he's gonna be out leaks in dream on greens certainly has an old school type of mentality he doesn't care now. But there are a lot of guys do it doesn't seem like it lingers on and he made the doors are now just kind of seems like the mean mug that's the only thing you see on the court. Like after you do use of the than you you turn to the crowding kinda you and your tough guy faze us that's 'cause that's like a mean thing yeah they can look at me. It. This really needs to be tougher like it it's psych out people get pissed off the creative when you're treated trash talker those guys. They can get your skin but some more really funny. In the NFL is always receivers and it was always DB's. Very rarely at least in you know Mike's parents did linemen really talked at some of those guys the stuff they would come up with was. Amazing. They they've got guys who do research Fritz mute was a corner in the NFL for a long long time and I've played against him in Mississippi State and that guy. They key new he you. Like biographies about people use does it go dark art of listening to Baghdad run his mouth of a deal pistons yeah those guys out. You talk trash insists. That was that was kind of wished I guess everybody got a daughter is dying but yeah I'd doesn't really appear that that exists much anymore it's gone. All right up next. Now. Let's venture into the delicate territory of what shows you watch with your son and another mountain. Solution to drag you down to the nether regions the analyzed data show that she really likes she's changed Saddam launches with me and psych group warned them. The tutors. On now. 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