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MLB is changing the intentional walk, is it worth it?

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They are listening to the primetime and eyes against duke I'm suit by the way podcast brought to you on the stand by your local less while tires and are doing the right thing since 1950 to you not cute. Right not welcome prime time where advising consumers to what is got her out there and never momentum and unbiased. Just short of the tournament on compromise sports talk without booze sugar coat oh yeah I think he links and everyone's life and war things thanks Isaac dropping Jason's a candid camera show. And let me do my job the best in sports coverage. This is prime time revising consumed on 1080 I love. Alright. Welcome back. If you have a nemesis previously regrettable first hour and a half that mistakes were made. But I had fun with. Rob strapped on strapped in weird things were afoot. On apple be talked. Yeah we got a lot there and act. They adapt obviously if you're from the West Coast I think people are siding with me a lot of midwest folks Chiming in in support of view. Well I told you you early in the Euro out of touch with middle American I am I've never lived there. I've never lived in middle America should just trust me on this Denver the closest I've been the middle America does neighboring did Nebraska and so this is south from the Internet. Before we get to real stories that happens from time to time and I liked it because. One this guy put in a lot of free can work into this okay. And to assist kind of on because don't people load. To bandy about potential trades certainly they love yes you get those street TC it's fantasy what is the blazers traded CJ four. And in every fan has a way to put LeBron James Jay Cutler. And just like DeMarcus Cousins and Anthony Davis and Kevin Durant on mullah team and they only have to give up like 31 Olympics while you're exaggerating the but sometimes yes you get those where people like. Heyman. He think did want to Meyers Leonard and the bag in his hoops and we can get Anthony do you give it up. I always go to that mix it up and protests. About. So this guy's name's Ian Levy. And I don't know who works for I think Sports Illustrated he put together and he says that all of this works. A on a salary it from a salary in salary out perspective to make the trades work and get this all works. He put together and that's the key here is just making sure this out respect to. Well he put together a thirty team trade market. Every single team. Is involved in this trade and I thought that was wonderful I can go to work it's like when you go to Vegas you do you like the sixteen team partly eight. Let's let's CO this worked out he says he says he's actually not sure if this would be legal. Although that would be fascinating how many teams like what's I don't know because you're like now we're team deals deserve Milliken nineteen why could there not be a thirty team trade. That would probably be the CB NB a little hard to get everyone every single like how freaking call it heavy work every single team. Gets something in Little League would be just completely completely different. Again a day. It would be in it would be awesome. The reshuffling the deck liken it it's again it's fantasy sports we just have a fantasy draft and the degrade the trades. Now are these big names as some of the march so here's let OK so first of law. You know outlook I'm not flippant there every team in re he'd be he writes I keep a lot of where he writes a whole paragraph for every team there's a thirty good players in the it's so there are names that are. You know like for example Atlanta's diversity and comes up views alphabetically Paul Millsap has traded so that mean our name's CJ CJ goes in the steel group CG and well here's what the blazers it's I don't know what. Yeah. I don't care about the other teams you lucky boxed but. As it pertains to the blazers in the steel. You tell me if you do that's the case. The blazers would trade CJ McCollum Ed Davis. Al farouq Aminu and fastest is healing and came and they would get Greg Monroe. Taj Gibson. And the mavericks' first round pick this year in the mavericks aren't very yet. So it's it'll get a deal lottery pick. Casey get a lottery pick eating Greg Monroe yes and Taj Gibson and Taj Gibson who's good for you give up CJ and then you know fast this is gone anyway. I'm Alfred Aminu and Davis. No I don't think I I don't think I do that union but yet what looks to be picked top 56 pick in the draft this year. In memory still have your picks in now. But the best thing your gaining back in return is Monaro is Munro retires Gibson and in grows nicely. Both the number of kind of pain. Mean you want to Greg Monroe but he certainly hasn't worked out there and I'm with you I don't think I would do that deal look. I think CJ is going to be an all star break CJ is is a real. Is a real legitimate player in this league and Greg Monroe and Taj Gibson or are decent enough but. I don't think that that is isn't tested to give up CJ and then you're you're drafting a lottery pick it. And that's just another crapshoot you're basically saying you go find someone as good in the draft I don't think idea that. And it but I just not you know. That was a fumble deal the back guided. And it's amazing to me they give this isn't his job. In milk. How long does it take him to put that together. He really sat around and came dead like you've. Too much time on your hand body weight to my hobby well and it wiping walked this is a hobby talked to a girl do something but. There's a middle to speak out on the stuff artists are finding commendable that he did this mean I only did it. For all thirty teams he did it with consideration of what each team and you needs and wants to view. So I got to Ian Levy whoever you are wherever you are in this in the Internet world this series like congratulations. It's. Yeah. I'm he's he's basketball blog area for I think he's for Sports Illustrated OK so it's. Kind of his job then deny it's his job I mean he's. Okay he's on Amazon's the fan boy something nice scene here NBA editor and columnist for fan sided which is. You can owned by police for so this is getting paid the port it would frighten me is that someone's doing this just. Like on Saturday night and you break out like the leaning tower pizza boxes and a bunch of code red Mountain Dew or do I detect doesn't really pour this over boys. Well he says seventeen straight hours are those kind of fun and he said. It's gonna (%expletive) every single team like not one team is gonna like their deal but he said but he what what he did was he went on Twitter and he said. Replied to me with why you would not do this deal. For your team and he said there were only eight teams fan bases. Who loved their deal. And who was that and I don't say I don't know sounding parlance is I don't that is the feedback we're getting news you're. EU taking some rotational players and borderline starters. And on you your deal on them for what you think could be a potential. All star and you're getting a lottery pick back and return and Abbas and bond rose and rose did. Yeah he's not he's not. He did you know it Gibson's he's what a 1213 point you know a guy play little defense. And I just don't think either one of them is blowing your hair back. It is that that much better than the other rotational players that you're giving up from Portland well look it's just hypotheticals just for fun if you wanna know what the other. I'd teams are doing in this deal just. Google that are gone that are on I might not like reach we'd. Re tweet it yankees re tweeting now the search for earth. And maybe I'll define it it's out there Ian Levy the guy's name okay now to real news. Not fake news like thirty team NBA trades. It's such a big news this is real fake news this is real news when there really it's rumor changed Major League Baseball. And shocking. Punishment news from college football. Self imposed penalties Richard Myers held imposed bans are my favorite kind of put thirteen on the fan. Primetime where guys chicken soup gone 1080 Beltran. OK. And he and John Jones and pursue based on the value. So you know it's. Globe now I got my things because the the Mets even Matt's Scottish shark. That was the big news who cares. He cut a shark insisted they should open a new fancy car or you Jones and for baseball yeah I could use little micro. For sure minutes at time a year of really the curse is real spring training games are on Friday the Mets have five pitchers coming off major arm issues and I'm just. Little nervous. And the others. Well look there's a big change coming to Major League Baseball. Huge. It was announced today the four huge fourteen sector gonna be shaved off like one every three games. They are going with the auto intentional walk. Yeah hurry up her game yeah. What they're saying is it eliminates a case of so now okay what happens in baseball those snow launch. If you would like to intentionally walk a batter the you throw four pitches and outside the strikes and get your stands up and he ends he would that is armed with that is arm like he's gonna make a left hand turn. Out of bicycle cop. You throw it over there in ironically. This announced yesterday the day the very day that Texas saint am lost a baseball game on a nineteen mean. Wild pitch wild pitch on an intentional walk. It happens from time to time and you see it mainly this is like some people don't like Israel like white he's still got to throw the balls. And sometimes things go wrong there a guy can't throw the ball right now and we gain an advantage so don't eliminate it or some Deb you know you've got I've seen it before word I would steal the base often intentional walk because the pitchers and hold them on there he just kind of lolly gags went down Marion and you know you can you can try to make something happen that way. Try to get the catcher involved in the run game mean weird things happen but what they've done now. Is they have said and the players union agreed this with the leaders saying. The skipper can just signal from the dugout if he wants a lucky guy in the that I just goes straight to first base. So what they're saying is this will eliminate one minutes of dead time. Her intentional walk. Which is great yeah. We now that averaged out over every game of the season fourteenth it averages about fourteen to fifteen seconds per game that will. Save I am fascinated with Major League Baseball you know itching to do with your free time in the duke next fourteen cents. I think about that I think about what to do those fourteen seconds then those fourteen things will be up. I am fascinated by baseball and there are desire to shave. Minutes off of off of a baseball game I just. Well don't you think. Like does anybody care about this one red the other enough to really defend this either don't I don't K compares to me it's as they get a goes to the larger point of I don't think we even if you got down to where you were shaving a sniff what would you think is a significant amount of time fifteen minutes. What he's saying off average game time off every game time I mean. If for being. On missile we would want a Minnesota half hour what what is average game average game time rhinos probably I don't know the exact number but it's around three hours to 55 to three okay we're not shaven thirty minute I've been saying that you I think people would want yeah and I would want games the last two hours and fifteen minutes agreed. They're nice quick round of golf is getting you well. Well you complained to r.s fifteen minutes. And not play fast but not them there with a nine holes it. If if you're talking about a significant. Time change you're not gonna be able duke is you have to fundamentally Alter the game. Not gonna happen no rules are gonna be change that so what you are talking about doing is speeding up the game by a matter of minutes. And I refuse to believe that that six to eight minutes or even ten minutes makes any kind of difference whatsoever. In the enjoyment of a baseball game site I just I'm kind of up over this. That the last five years this has been a. Awful Manfred fired up about an idea I just I don't understand what that what he's saying is you know we have got to you. Modernize the game. In baseball is stuck in the stone ages league players he's even says. That players are absolutely against. Any change yes and what he's saying is look this like the strike zone that he yet so this in and of itself is intentional walk thing is not a big deal but it's something that we should have done a long time ago. But you couple that went. A 22 pitch clock you couple that went. Balls being put him play more frequently because they're there they wanna raise the strike zone he put you couple that with limited of visits to the mound. And he's got this long term plan. Of all these changes that can absolutely. And modernize the game and you know get it. In front of a little of the few more fast which type people now some will say. That. And I am maimed by the way I think he is right I think he's a guy like Selig was just an old this guys younger he's look into the future and he's like all right. Now we need to speed this up now will fifteen minutes make a difference I don't know I think that's. The the alternative the argument is baseball is baseball and no matter what you do. Rules why is. Not much is going to change that's mine. Think you're trying to you're trying to make. Baseball in the something that it isn't it's it there's a little bit of this to me with football. Although folk like give wide because well people are dying. But you're trying to legislate contact. At a football. Like you're you're not gonna make the game safe you can make the game Seifert. And this is this is where I'm gonna drug compares in baseball is trying to make a slow game fast. Only so much you're gonna do unless you really fundamentally change it felt like you're try to make a violate game. Not pilot and you can't do it you can eliminate some of the really egregious stuff you can't make it safer and I think you you're kind to have it. Again when you play football you were going to take years off your life right then I noticed it right when you play baseball. Gaby are going to be slow given I would ask you as if he's the ball lineup trying to make it safer yes you'll never make it safe. But why not make it safe earth and in baseball why not try to speed it up because and in baseball for me Syracuse right baseball itself. Will never an obvious slow paced game down but it right the it's the fact that it's a slow paced game. With all these little things that happen that add those extra fifteen minutes that's all are doing right by eliminating windows when they're compounded on top of each other it sometimes makes it a watchable now for baseball diehards like me not really but I can understand. Why oh my god as the sixth time he's got out to talk to the pitcher and why is the pitching change taking so long and why isn't three point taken so long why we have to watch all four pitches. When you can get rid of those I think it makes it. Easier to digest for people who were trying to get into the game I think if they were able to us. You got all the downtime. That I think would be noticeable as a viewer on television and he that would I think when you're in the ballpark. To keep care early on March figure in the ball park you're there you're lemonade you're talking your neighbor you're getting a beer whatever you're you know but they got a for TV. It does need a little faster pace well in I'm not I'm not sold that they can that they can do that mean they're trying to do that to the game. What they're trying to do that to our all the other things around the game Mike mound visits. And wells the strike zone they feel like more balls be put in play. Which doesn't necessary change the game it just makes it works I mean it just makes it faster paced and night I don't. I think that's a commissioner's job is try to look at those things and so I know promised him trying to look at it but make no mistake if they make a stupid rules change. I'll be the first to say that's dumb. But none of these two meet sound dumb no they don't tell the players don't change anything for I think collectively they might. They might is what he sane and I think the players are stuck in the stone ages players have got this I mean the players' union in baseball. These are old school grows and they have got to just at least a little bit. Wake up and say all week we get. What baseball's like meanwhile played baseball and maybe it's time gives you we got to allow us all had to to evolve became a modernized again. Well we we had. Story last year the HBO real sports piece on it was the ex player ones who was trying to to push the robotics strike zone. And yellows or burn your birds Bernadie he had the old umpire did show us the thinking exactly he just refused they they were his candidate Ari they would give him a CD. At the end of heavy each game saying hey these are you know the calls you missed he would throw the trash you've got I'm not looking at that says that mentality of baseball. I understand that that needs to have. All but once things like here's an example to me. It drives me crazy how long hitters take. In between. Pitches Nomar Garciaparra are no question Nomar would step out in mass of the and I have as little you know as little routine this gloves in his hat. I just got given the boxed in and let's go in the pictures the same way. Lot of guys are really slow some guys like to do is get up Darren and he bit. And I just think if players. Here's the raw or really the ones that can effected change most without even any rules just. Move along and and at this because this pertains to something I heard today I was listening to calm. I was listening to. The podcast. By Sports Illustrated. And it's called. I've beaten him a get. But it is really get as tiny dot Mike Dee and Tony. And what he likes to do with the rockets and whites working in Houston and one of the things they set on there was. It's amazing how Ethier was Jack McCall on the guy who wrote seven seconds or less. About the suns with Mike and Tony what he said was it's amazing how fearful. Professional athletes are in they feel like. If they play slow. They are in control. But the reality is. The faster you play the better you play it it in this can be debated frees you up with this isn't yet this is DN Tony's theory is. The faster you play the more in flow you are the more you just let even marginal players just. Play in re act the more you were able to utilize. Their towns get more out of them. Then if they are if you let the defense set in analyze everything and then make Chris Duhon. You know make a play he's not going to get good Jane's heart and mind it is. Well he was talking about Chris John and they're easier Christie on as a point guard in new York and by the way when Chris Duhon played in his system. He set the record for assists in the game. Chris Duhon dished out 22 assists in one game so. That was part of proving his point that a Raymond Felton was agreed to rent some it was good it was good with him you know and that's because he lets he heats tells guys to call just. Goal display play. And we're doing basic things if like James Harden has the ball up front he's doing a basic thing he's doing it fast he doing in the first and seconds. If there up on me I'm passed into an open three Chip Kelly yeah. A lot of susteren in football and if there if they're if they're standing back guess what I'm Dryden or I can lot of don't look so. Back to baseball. I think some of these players this is where I think the players can make changes you feel like when you're when you're taking all this time in between pitches and you think about the CD not that. And it is a little bit more cerebral game but. They feel like they're in control when the rally is if you just stepped in there I did you begin in a rhythm better. If you just stepped in there and see pitch after pitch and pitch in the pitcher just steps on the rubber and throws it just. Asking the question because I've I've never played any kind of level of competitive baseball and in fact if I threw a pitch my arm would literally fall off I have no shoulder. But do we need ten warm up pitches no thank you you're in the bullpen and you obviously warmed up. Can we run the guy out there and look you've got sixty seconds teacher SF the bullpen get on the mound go in between any two do we really need. Fortified minutes in between it means for guys to kind of Miller around his they need him. I know that's a great that's another great and I think the batter's box is the individual players need to just speed up how they operate but that's gonna kill our advertising in math sense though which is why that would never happen now because I don't give us and we have had him at times. But yes I think for. You know in a perfect world you roll out. The first face and onto the ball right you know guys the outfielders would back there are thrown back and forth with the ball boys and one guy's nose and a filler. Two or three I mean you you do want like it's been a long half inning you do want that you know throw a couple and you get a a little grounder from your first baseman. You get to those of the pitcher throws four or five warm up scope and let's play at all. It's only need. It's way too long right now. Yet and that's all Manfred is mantra is saying is like these little things we can tighten up all this and try to make an actual impact on it maybe that's. And Mike's point is right I think it is that's one reason why hasn't addressed what you're talking about. Because they do you have. Advertisers that they can't I mean they can't disrupt they can't eliminate make that if you say. Thirty seconds sixty seconds in between every half inning that's wonderful now but the same time. Avenue announced TV's gonna be sensitive and I just the non interest in having the game shaved down by ten minutes I don't care you talk and a half hour then I'm with you a bit. And that's open him I think it's every one of these things to be just sounds like your rearranging. Deck chairs on the Titanic that whatever I don't know I think he can work but. Bloom intentional walk thing. He saves a solid glorious fifteen seconds so. Am excited about my fifteenth. OK and happen with a little close to bombing is what you get to coming up next here's Mike. Prime time with the chicken soup and 1080 girlfriend. Texas. They spoke as a mini games links problem it has accomplished in activity. You know. I series going with that in SO or just talking about is all the downtime in the speeding up tightening up the good down moments economy. They gain a little bit more exciting. So this football and let a lot of down time well that allows you say is you know if you look at the NBA in the NHL. Yet but to our little over two hour game links and that for eight for a season that plays 82 regular season games that's about right. And you know you sit down though and soccer's is it is you know you sit down to watch the blazers game. You're not getting unite giving up any more than that M I two and a half are easier time total rat. Baseball does have a gambling problem when you play a 160 games and you're looking at two hours and 45 minutes that's too long. So I think it I disagree with him and once is that it it does definitely have an inactivity problem which is where members trying to address. In in turn that would maybe. Lower game links but. Make no mistake football has the worst problem it's just that you wouldn't game links and others like twenty minutes an actual play he had an NFL game for buzz sourced from I think the reason why it's gates is because it's it's just weekly it's an event each game is an event. And we don't want the damn I guess it's exciting it's what what just twelve games in college in sixteen games in the NFL. And that's it so but if you play a 160 games man you claim the daily game these teams can't be going over three hours it's ridiculous I feel. Like football in person I do you think there's a problem which is why attendance is down across the board in the NFL ending college I think on TV is not as noticeable. And I think a lot of us are going to red zone channels are flipping around liking college ball games. Well that's saves a beer mean average games are gone for hours and cultural boring now to a ridiculous I go sit at a college football game right Gerson an NFL game I go to more collagen in the NFL. When there are times rom like what that. In this is brutal mean it's painful. Sometimes how long those are which is why do you think that attendance in the NFL and in college football is a bit of a concern for people. This is is there's a lot of people and I'm one of these that you over three hours and anything you're asking a lot. I ask a life of me to sit down and that's right that much time in Beijing airport. Football last sixteen playoffs you know maybe twenty why here every football game intently if you're a fan of or info on your watch you watching every single game in my politics but as a royals Fenner is the Mets enters a mariner fan still watch every hour of every game do. My brother does which is. Weird and it's only Lotta times a lot of and so they do need to shorten those games they absolutely did but it. Believe if you were to wave a magic want it'll never happen again revenue and and just. Baseball if you went to seven innings in you cut. Sixty games that you played a hundred games. Problem soft. Yeah well no never they're not gonna do that never happened they're just talking about when it's on. It needs to go faster yet because Fiat because it's just deals that watch it. And you know it's got a real problem with getting young people to watch it on television forty years I got to move fast I will be very interest at 4050 years to see where. Baseball's that. Amortized about the death of football and and that'll be interesting too to see how that evolves if anything you take on the gorilla that is the NFL they all have the problem beyond their problems but as this as as we get older and you know were both what you're in your forties and I'm approaching it. And another forty years when we're dead. And what's the landscape like yeah what I'd love seat to you know our kids sitting in their beds are they going to be an out following baseball. I know this is why have always said or football like what's gonna happen to football they all other they all have their problems. It's just this is liable I said I think the NBA. Is. This is the sports the league with the most potential. To add to go to grow. NFL's Ari on top the baseball's trying to maintain what they have and baseball's healthy may not mean it's not. Get oversees about how unhealthy is its record revenue and attendance numbers every year for the last four years but what we're talking about are legitimate concerns. The MBA if they'd just tightened up some stuff and how they structure things that a better product on the floor night in and night out. Well that's I'm saying like it they can't they have amazing amazing amazing amazing athletes yes. And they are really fun to watch like. They have a product it's just. The way they structure it waters it down and I said this a deep Jillian times and it just broke quake. I think if they shorten that season to fifty games like when they had the strike yes greatest best NBA season ever. Every game mattered which when you get more into the college territory or forty games fifty games. They it's the same game what liking college finish the season in forty. In the NBA has sticky fueled much the answers revenue it's anonymous is ever gonna happen but I'm saying if the MBA. Had a shorter season. Did not have guaranteed contracts whereas more like the NFL words like dude your. You can be cut at any moment you meet before yeah and they had and they had a more unpredictable. Post season structure those three things other shorten the series in the policies do we need to do. To. To create more upsets. As opposed to the team that has two best players meeting in the finals. Then that. Is really really compelling. Yeah I think the other one to me I mean so in other words if they if they are Smart moving forward. I think that leaking grab a lot of new fans if if they do it right now I've I've look I'm with ya that I just don't know how old. How you do that and don't know how you change that product was too radical. I'm so they just have what I descends way to radicals of that so they just have to you. In Adam silver seems to be more sensitive to this to get any younger smarter commissioners that seem like. And not Smart Amy Davis who really Smart guy but. Adam silver does seem like a guy who's like OK let's take a look at some things how to get underneath the hood and maybe tinker with yet and I think if they just keep doing that over time that Lee could be a really good spot compared to the NFL I guess is this if kids start. Shying away from the NFL and shying away from football. Because of the violence aspect of it. Baseballs to slow it does seem like basketball is the one waiting with open arms and will come joining us that's and a mean the other two that I think it's the week. To be seen like the best. But there's so many more problems are the NHL and and usually soccer Major League soccer in a one it's it's nowhere near the best in the world of soccer in general. Mean that bits there's a stoppages right just goes into a big crux of his race that the structure of soccer seems to be that that we don't we all play when we're little. And yet this country just I don't think we'll ever fully embrace it. And then the other one any. I think we would if we had the best league you nailed it. Did I think here. BMO let. We wanna watch the best and we know the MLS is no it's not the bass in so that is always gonna hold us back a whole hold it back we know that LeBron James and Kevin Durant of the best in the world. We noted that the football player of course is unique football American football as uniquely ours via and then. A bit when you watched when you soccer if baseball same if soccer games. I'm not a soccer guy did it in and this is the ugly American arguments whoops I'm sorry soccer guy you can beach you know you want but it is so hurt. And did you know if every soccer game ended fifteen to fourteen. And I knew that the you know it's it's gonna be this flank and played 45 minute halves right so I'm not gonna commit eight hours to the game I know how long it's gonna go. It is if it was more fast paced if there was more scoring soccer to me would be be ideal sport for. I guess when he calls it a lot of kids are playing a lot of kids are played and the other what is it more Pete works sports exposed to and this is hockey sink and not a lot of stoppages. Not a ton of commercials. In a year you're over the boards your you're changing on the fly like not a lot of score many Camby and got a lot of scoring us scoring big even when there's not going to be serious collisions and it's it's kind of a mix between soccer and football structurally if if if we grew up. In the United States. Went with hockey around us like candidate it's. And kind of the national sport and we inner cities in the game it's such an expensive sport needed such a hard skill. You have to have you know when your little be exposed to and learn how to skates Nike just rolled a ball out there and say hey go play it you know any one. So but this structure of soccer and hockey as far as. Hi commitment action didn't that this set up a bit those thought he seemed like. They would be ideal but bold face hockey more than soccer face huge inherent problems from ever getting. Over the top of our traditional sports I'm very curious though because this isn't like him are true any sort of number or anything but just for my own experiences and I'm kind of becoming soccer got a little bit. A lot of Mullen meals are on the soccer train right now a lot of people might. And I would be the exact opposite. Of what we do what we would assume because soccer is very much like baseball where there's a lot of time where sure there's things happening but. It's slow paced you know they're working the ball into the offensive zone there's a lot of backwards passes but. Millennial a lot and so at Wisconsin action. Well but it it's not Donald. Yeah eyes huge as you point but I think there's not breaks right there there is no down time there's always something now may be not that interesting that there is always something. And it in I think it fits into their lives better that didn't when I would when we played in NFL Europe we you'd have to go over and we would run down. And we clinics camps we try to expose. You know the cities that we played into American football. And that was the number one thing I heard from Europeans. Is how on God's earth can you guys watch this you stop. Every six seconds they just is that they're right there used to rugby they're used to doing soccer they're used to restrain growth hope all these things. And they say hey we we like you know watching the collisions and we know there's great athletes and everything but. It was all we do is sit there and watch you guys stand around and then once a while something happens. And maybe a handful of exciting things happened throughout the entire game and I. Form totally get a life is a Leahy. I think they know we're see used to there is a polite even in soccer if there's not something exciting happening. There's still something happen by really one other point in the ago but islet that Mike said we were we are spit balling two hours 45 minutes average length of game from Masood you saw. I looked up the average he's a baseball game last year. Three hours 26 minutes. That was the average for the entire that was the average for the entire season that is way too long why it again rob Manfred file is is. Trying to help that but he's may scene did bigger picture point in that is. The players just go about their business far too slow we're not a guest that. 326 that's insane for a 162 games too it's too much man that's why he's trying to address it. And by the way we'll get to this tomorrow. But he's getting balls he and he's a he's about to use his power to promote these changes whether or not the players association wants him or not. And we'll get to that tomorrow it's 450 on the fan. When buys expensive guns. Because while his hands free is going to be enough. It just keeps getting shipped back like this discussion though I think it's a good run. The text here says soccer is popular with Millen heels because it's simple and easy to follow. And I agree with that in the you know Mike first disagree with the music armed with that at all. I because he'd he knows soccer and he knows the intricacies of it but compared to football American football like on the surface. There's a ball you have two teams playing against one another in soccer and you try to score more goals you put Baughman that's very simple so it is very simple and easy to follow. To the layman. Whereas if you just sit down and watch American football minded guy you have no idea what's going on it takes a long time it's very complex. And that's what I love about football is. Football can be as intricate. As you want it like you it is a deep dive if you go into like really serious axes and knows you might be blown by what's going on a football field. Soccer may have that element to it but on the surface. It is very easy to just sit down watch fits right in your life it's fast paced. And at a fast paced it it ends quickly it ends in two hours does have its down time as much as plain but. That makes it much more popular with younger people and I agree with that. Yeah and I again I go back to. Maybe it is not it's a unique experience but trying to explain football tooling on football audience like what we had to do an NFL Europe. I really hard time selling the game like people would ask questions all the time why I don't know why. Why can't that. I catch we can't go out for passes while you throw that guy will we can't because he's an offensive lineman why isn't he eligible IE just isn't. Why is that a terribly. We had too many guys who line of scrimmage what's the line of scrimmage when that's where the buck why can't you have more people out there I don't know why Kenya only want you just can't. It's the most arbitrary game. A lot of rules with a lot of rules on a rule and yet it's the 800 pound gorilla in the united state only love it but nowhere we're used to it but yeah I mean it's. It's not easy to understands now and all and my kids. My kids could. Can I watch it obviously design doing neither is based now but like when my kids sit down to watch it they ask them some of the kind of the same questions and I just think it's it's confuses them I try to explain it the best I can without going into great detail in my kids kind of smile and nod but I know deep down their. Like whatever. I'm gonna go do something else but to our point is bring the full circle I think the NBA has the most growth potential because of exactly what we're talking about Saddam watching you get what's going on. Right either it's it's intricate there's a moral learn try to put the loop is that's right line and that's right same a soccer at same with hockey yes low dollar footballer much more into it and by the end misspoke. Bill linked to the average Major League Baseball game I miss read this actually. Is not three hours and 26 minutes it's three hours and 26 seconds. Okay so wasn't as long as. Still as I said it still over three hours which is ridiculously long for an average game. That's crackpot fighter five coming up next pay your member I met Ludwig and you're Matt Leo yeah he's got another job it's this like not rain in the last three months. We have a blazers updates and a couple of trades pulled off today which we'll get to all coming up next on the fan.