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Dirt & Sprague, Tuesday 1-3-17 Hour 3

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Swag offers up a playoff edition of NFL True or False, the guys enjoy their weekly chat with Terry Porter as the Pilots had a 2-0 week, and did any one conference dominate the bowls.

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Yeah what's up everybody it's dirt when I thank you for takes some time out to listen to be podcast of our show brought to you by less Schwab tires doing the right thing since 1952. Oh I tell you Jennifer cheers cheers and party but this is durden sprayed. Senate approved seven politics so she hopes of party's over so and keep the snow for us Andy under Johnson and Brandon spray and iPod Hobart because it's over the bodies but the deepest don't know because I just adore durden spray on virginity which. Which you should go for a does she does she visit don't want to to also to make dole Bob Dole and soaking the space he ends six to somehow. And New York streets were jealous I. This final hour dirt sprang out of cheese steak and follow us on Twitter after his right we will follow you back come out and ten minutes from now talk Terry Porter Portland TrailBlazer legend Portland pilots and coach they face gonzo I've had this weekend number five ranked team in the land columns I god guns I the bulldogs are coming and I just read an article on ESP mandated said. Can the bulldogs make it to the regular season undefeated. Two reporters can have some say about that Saturday payment Alec wintering Alec wintering SO attack was at a conference player of the week. Dietary born here in ten minutes to get to conference perceptions whatever conferences done their arguments here in the bowl season. At the bottom of the hour and maybe some not future of the pac told talk as well but you read and or an. Philip true or false segment it is seven on Tuesday cesium 130 in the old Charles Kelley got in the way today. So that's gonna throw out a statement about the league gaskins of its true or false you can play along at 55. Freel flies I would like to drop the microphone on Tom Brady not being anywhere near. The top five in passing yards and he didn't even make the top five in touchdowns so for those of you who have tracked this all season. That's Dirk one. Swagger wow Craig zero wolf first of all. It's like and I love this that it could I love this I attracted all year long in back of my vacation at the end of the year I would disease where he was ago. I'll stand in solidarity with DL with you thank you thank you. Are you ready and I do miss playoff tradition first up the New England Patriots wrapped up the number one overall seed in the AFC by trouncing the dolphins. And their regular season finale true or false the patriots. Will win every game in the AFC playoffs by double digits in cruise and a Super Bowl 51. Yeah. I know we're here it's gonna go with this half hour I'll just say first that I know order it's going to happen. I will say false they they will get a tough game whether it's. The first divisional game or whether it's the AFC title big wheel IV tough ballgame. I think they're they can still be exposed defensively. Missing bronco hurt him at some point the running game. Is the gear blunt going to be able to do it every single time I don't know he's had a good year but I think at some point it's Kansas City. Pittsburgh they will have a tough team in the post season and then it became Citibank has sent home last your from that and Foxboro and I was in the second round and of course glossy is C title game in overtime because the new stupid PAT rules exist in the NFL. Others is false on stickam in my pre season back I've I've liked him down the stretch I think the Steelers. Have talent everywhere you want talent defensively maybe not great enough just to completely slow down New England. But lay beyond Melvin then Antonio Brown the weapons they have off on offense they should be able to put points up on him. I love the steelers' chances even upset them in the second round of the playoffs if that is the matchup we get we have to wait and see how wild card weekend goes I say this fall. It is false I think the patriots have yet there but I think invariably somebody. Will give them a game at some point in the playoffs. Most likely. It would cut I think the chiefs might be able to do it as well did they face I give him sitting in Pittsburgh can both do it up. Our ID the Dallas Cowboys will facing gauntlet of NFC playoff teams would veteran QB's if they are to get Super Bowl tour false. Cowboys won't even make the NFC championship game who would they play eve what's the scenario I forget who they'd let it play the highest remaining for the lowest lowest seed to zoom lions so the only they wouldn't play the three seed. Which is the Seattle Seahawks so Seattle wins they would play Atlanta that is set up. And then so most likely they're gonna play. New York green mayor Detroit or Detroit and you're asking me will or will not make the NFC title game yet they won't so will be out they'll lose their first game. You know what I I think the make of this cowboys team is different. How overmatched at some playoffs can dictate a lot of things if they have to play the falcons. We're not the falcons piano player either most slide might leave if you think Seattle's going to be Detroit. Then they would play the winner of the giants Packers game which is a ridiculous wild cards. Yes I think both of those teams the giants who saw it twice I think they can lose to both of those teams. I feel Emeka different phenomena go true. True they won't make the NFC title game yeah I'll put I guess I'm ride the hot hand right now I know we'll talk about this later in the week you're not quite as bullish on the Packers as Siam and I know they're the trendy pick right now. Lot of this also us knew the fact that picked him in the pre season a woman pre season picked to be right. But the Packers have won six straight Aaron Rodgers is playing lights out football right now I like them to beat the giants the party would Bieber in Miami given the Packers and Lambeau. I. And I did there there's a lot of pressure on Dallas and just that. To have to go through what they've gone through all season the need to talk had to leave you got two rookies. Regis you don't know how they're gonna perform I'd I think dec president deserves a start he's been great but. There is a certain question mark they're going in your first playoff game. I know it's a roll the dice for both of these phenomena say this is true they don't make it. I think this will be true I think they are I think Seattle find a way to beat Detroit home. And that means the giants beat him twice already and the Packers are plain ridiculous quote Florio now. Tyrants Smith they say is he's not gonna keep them from starting by it. If he's not a 100% out there on your left tackle. That doesn't spell good I still think the defense can be susceptible to a good quarterbacks you've yet Rodgers out there Eli husband those hot games I can see it. So yes I think it's a B one and done from a voice. All right the Packers ran the table to finish the regular season with six straight wins going the NFC north division crown nobody hotter than the giants either true or false. The winner of the Green Bay New York wild card game will represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. This is false remain. I'm gonna ride with the pick and we'll do predictions later so maybe you'll forget these are you're just not catch showed today. I actually like Atlanta nobody's talking about Atlanta I certainly nobody is and I gave it's hard to trust Matt Ryan they've got new NFC title game before. He's got a DM Goodyear even without Julio Jones for 34 weeks and had a fourth down to beat the niners are banking until they were driving and that defense is start to play well. Everybody's trending on Green Bay an idea why it's Rodgers their sixth straight. I'm gonna say this is false I don't think it's going to be new Yorker agreement that is funny nobody's talking about the top and nobody its Dallas you know Adriana a New York Giants right. And nobody is mentioning a land that's an interest to pick I'm gonna say this is true though because I didn't agree based out hot right now Aaron Rodgers it's amazing this season he's put up when everybody proclaimed it dead it almost reminds me. Among people proclaimed the Alabama dynasty gone after they lost to Ole miss last year and I don't think they've lost a game since then they've won most by thirty or forty points. And we sat here after what 67 weeks of the NFL season and talked about what's wrong with Rogers and get a fire McCarthy. On this things donny's dating Olivia money she in his head. And here is a forty touchdowns he's won six straight he's got the hot hand we've seen in sneak in and do it before the difference is now yes home field advantage at least for the first game. Oddly the Packers went and I think they write down on hand to supervising troop. This is true I think either one of these teams they get over that first one which is a doozy it gets their attention right away barring of course be ridiculous. And for scene injury but. I think this'll be a situation where the wild card game they keep it rolling. And no be a juggernaut whichever one wins that game. All right last up to Kelly among several of the coaches get the ax following the end of the regular season true or false. Chip Kelly will return it to college football as a head coach before getting another chance to be an NFL head coach. I think this is false and he's going to be coordinator in the NFL I think he's gonna. He's gonna wait until his time and then I think ultimately he's going to be an NFL head coach again dvd gets another gig down. Thanks for sure do he just needs two or three good years knows he and another team will give him an opportunity he was railroaded in Simmons is gonna think most people. Danner respectful and you know relatively calm concede that Michael away. So I'm gonna say he will be an NFL head coach and he will not go back to college (%expletive) out I'm still an account as stick in my opinion from earlier I think the best game for him as a smaller level not smaller buddy eat. Above average power five conference team and listener tweet us Arizona State earlier a program like that work. It is an after necessarily deal with the boosters that he wanted to Texas or USC or an Alabama. But I do think his strength is more in college football and is the NFL on the and that's become increasingly. A clear to me over the last couple years so I think he takes it OC job maybe I think he sticks in the NFL for at least another year to. But the one of those jobs comes available only pounce it's like say. This is true he will be a college head coach again before and if my only contention when that wind but what jobs opening up. And college. Yeah we never know from year to year university of Minnesota university Minnesota just so you know round going to Minnesota a Minnesota man anatomy and those kind of jobs and are the ones at Purdue opened up this past years lag mentioned earlier. I know he's the elite. Jobs and that's it for him in college I just like that's kind of his thinking on. This football. Jeff no I think it's true I think he wants to beat in the NFL and I think as long as he can stay there and be relevant some capacity. I think him going back to college world be admitting he. The FO got the best of. We agreed on all four of those like art than I don't know session give me hope for concerning the new year it's a new year. And now that the Brady nonsense is over over teaming up like an NFL throwing ball team new drain if we did a segment every single Tuesday. I don't think conference perceptions are coming up at the bottom of the hour but. University of Portland welcomes the number five team in the country undefeated gun zag at a town. On Saturday night when they need to do to win we'll talk to the red coach Terry Porter next on tending to the fans. They ought to back into eighteen on a Tuesday it's Tuesday that means we need to us sit down and talk a little shop with Terry Porter Portland TrailBlazer legend. Head coach of the Portland pilots you can follow on Twitter at Terry Porter thirty he joins us on the guilt mortgage mobile hot line. A coach you gotta went on New Year's Eve I was gonna start the basket and your news you New Year's Eve was I have to imagine it was rather enjoyable for yeah. Well it could be a better way to bring in the new year without where it was a win and so very excited by it and now it's great for our guys to have a C it. Give back in now to examine omen when when the quality of a gift a quality opponent. Yet you know I've we I said delegate we talked last week coach in your come off it's just a couple in a close tough losses. Different conversation this week he's our conference play you know win over Pacific if that wind. On New Year's Eve as I mentioned so. I imagine it's a better field around the locker room and and kind of what's gone different here the last two games for yeah. Well first prefer haven't become citizens that the two words as opposed to rob yeah that's and I think the biggest thing is we've just got to bed debacles and out. The last two games and we've faced some adversity in and those Cantwell opponent came back and made a run at us and became a one possession game the difference is. We welcome to a much better job of actually no offense didn't quality shots and it would be essentially. Guinness stout told me needed to attack close those cans out where the previous two within duke. Some of those things that tend to the games and so he got to be given to. You know. Actionable sent to the floor and again in order to come out and be successful. You know goes and you got pretty big slate coming up on the schedule but I wanted to ask you because we were talking about Chip Kelly earlier and just kind of coaches in general on how long. A period you should give a coach before you you kind of pulled that the rug under their feet. I don't basketball little different than football but. How do you just feel about the climate of coaches and the pressure to win immediately. Yeah I think their whole landscape has changed about whether business changes so dramatically we're. Ownership or term and collegiate level sometimes they're a deal of the border regions or whoever really is really pushing that date pushing that button. In regards to. At times France which they exceed. Coaches. Try to turn a program around in my eyes. You know chipped it UB merchant ship under one year does that make putts and opportunity from the China program that. You know has some holes to begin with so. That think that you gotta give a coach in these two years to try to implement try to weed out the top players it doesn't fit in this. Dispel the player or this is the macho what you want to try to get Donnan and it's cultural matter it's just takes awhile to get the right type of leadership. Veteran leadership and level players you need to try to. Get a program turned in the right direction and one year. Does not give you and mud and enough time just doesn't. I don't want to kind of thing around one year he should think about great coaches and see. You know they had opportunities along the way it may they needed more than just one year and so should I don't know what the answer is you go about. You don't China and corrected but I know that one year. Two years could not be enough time taught how to program bash instead. Lot of issues to go with the Abigail went. Well and use we such him go from college the NFL and you NBA now Europe Portland like what was the biggest difference from you in terms of establishing a culture and trying to turns on the were on the pro level. So what you're doing now UP. All men's distance still trying to do little men want to we are we've never finished one season so it's you know you have to like anything it's. The players can't turn our ought to adopt players are recruited so it's a matter of them understanding what I'm trying to get done to my new philosophy standpoint. Compared to the previous staff. Whatever they're very traditional wherever there. There. What they're trying to build them because they're there are identity to the program. And so it takes to allow not Picasso the only passenger your recruiting class and I did those guys. Up to one major years since he has been you can kind of evaluate. How that close to done. Because you got a lot of them enough opportunity to go get some players that he feels it's. His identity how he want to play at both ends of the court and obviously you don't get bit level that the professional level doesn't matter what sport. There's different ways to go about doing it and sometimes that's based on the market you know you back can you go to the freeagent seeing go to the player can you. Do you got to do to trade you have to do it through draft pick so everybody's different base and their markets. But I think that once you figure out how you can best go about doing a proper talent. Did you have to have a the mutual understanding which here they'd be your boss or the GM. Or how he got to go Bob Dornan and stick to that planned and trust the process them. You know on and be willing to have noted that Columbia university of on the waste pressure early on as to where works out. Now a Tiger Woods Terry Porter Portland Chara was a legend is that coached. Of the Portland pilots who follow monster out Terry Porter thirty don't forget you can your older games over on our sister station 910. ESPN Portland and in coach I know you have another game Thursdays so excuse me for looking a little ahead though we're not gonna have a chance to talk to until next Tuesday. We should be followed up with your big showdown against gun Zagat undefeated number five ranked team in the country. Up from what you seen on film and in what even you know about the bulldogs what makes them so difficult and end what's going to be the biggest challenge for you Saturday united child senator. Blood subways I compare them to. You know the closest thing we face petition on our schedule Scott used to delay. Compare them and I say that because they have really. Very little weaknesses. Quick perimeter play and have great inside player. And have great size. You know utility had its size would debate very skilled. You know exactly the same way they have. Good size big 610611. And they both all the Big Sur. Different skills inside out and approved a player to a very good so the challenge Rudolph faces trying to limit your effectiveness. Both inside and outside so we have to do a good job of having the presence in the low box there in the bank and didn't have an ability to guard on the perimeter. One how important is it going to be for you coach because we talked about the can sag game and that's obviously going to be a marquee one on schedule for a lot of people. Because of Santa Clara on Thursday so like just trying to keep your kids focus from overlooking a game like that. And looking ahead to a game likened zag aware that's always such a big opportunity for kids in our age you know eighteen to 2122. Edward you know resistance out of focus on one game at a time as the red not total focus should be just had a clearly got a chance. Again want another when I guess another quality opponent in the buildup. And continued to improve our role playing test us we go out on the road and so everything we've talked about this. In other business chip we have which sent a clear focus in on Matt you know for the next 48 hours and then. Worry about whoever is left who's next after that. So shall we don't wanna get to that point we still looked him. Pass anybody. We don't we haven't. We haven't earned that right and we got to. Here nobody ever respect everybody and so we have to go out. Really compete. Mobile we go to Santa Clara try to love you know tip that we haven't contained a deal on what we've done the first two guys have to give Lance. That does Terry Porter have any New Year's resolutions. You know it's sad to workout more yeah. CQ. It went for a team that seemed continue to play well that's that's about it. Enough continue to be a better husband and the father to my kids and not just the usual really doesn't use open the most people would try and their loved. No refocus on. What's the best New Year's memory you have. I am. Can we get like a really juicy one we asked the wife and justice step away from the radio is like an MBA. Or not. And it is very try to keep this PG yeah you can't wait to create a real large Clemens we've been talking longtime Giuliani don't art together you can do that I thought a lot of the licences that. Syria Bart directors look at the I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know that I would blogs are losing home please please please please please please. Every game that level I can share with you guys are your listeners. All right was shared together and we meet for the first time in person out there are out there got very good Terry Porter head coach of the Portland pilots follow him on Twitter at Terry Porter thirty at Santa Clara Thursday then at home against number five guns Agha. Saturday night good luck this week coach thanks as always for the time a look at of the begin next Tuesday. I got thank you so much and please don't. They go up. Yet to airport -- kind of aspire cutoff man take take coach Josh Mahoney now and always has a happy newly in love is what it what is he gonna say we've missed that could have been happy to doesn't I really want another New Year's story it sound like he had a few the content has all he has some dandy says that it is an MBA player had a couple believes they can you wanna do and NN held back a little bit probably Smart when you're on a program by the way that can say game is completely sold out. Which that's not really surprised that is the marquee game slash opinion the brother of the tickets. I can pride gets oppressed pass but there's there's no tickets to be had come odds right guard your big time is almost how Jews man years are violent man you know I mean there's a couple of yeah I always say that begins -- game sorry though those are all throughout the -- I don't know how much use can I talked to Tim Tim's guidance used to pull tickets hurt and -- he's the one writing checks over the back dead Tim's luxury box that he probably has in no way there in the Giles sent her a star zig and -- you don't think it's there and I don't have a luxury suite Ali you usually don't see it's like the Paul Allen apartment that he noticed an elective what's not Bok center at -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- but they -- their work -- -- -- -- -- -- it's not just lip service Santa -- Jerry -- -- the real deal. And they got to go deal with him first as a simpler just knocked off San Francisco. Last week so. Big week for the pilots may want to tuck and amateur Porter next Tuesday and hopefully be breaking down a big win for him. On Saturday night against guns I know what my computer froze summit attended a subject up my head. How has your perception and the power five conferences changed throughout the course bowl season we'll talk about that. It seemed that Rondo and question for you to ponder. Coming up here in ten minutes from now Sampson. And I take night I told somebody this week and I did I didn't think she was out hot. I am not sure is that hot like two years after. I mean it's not say she was never really what we all have our different tastes right everybody's got their favorite she's a gorgeous woman had no doubt about it but nights when we talk hot in IE DS right not my age she comes to mind when I see hottest female reporter or poster analyst who now talking about. Sam ponder. Well Christians wife of faith NFL quarterback mills is Christian. In question upon the coming up to match what programs scares you more as a pactel fan. Moving forward Washington or USC can we do both and then put Stanford in there now home I'll cut by the game time. I also have another question for you to end at this is for you to find gentleman in listeners can answer it 55305 but if we were to rewind to a month ago from today. And what does it the second the third it's a third and I were to ask you on December 3 and what is the best power five conference in the country when it comes to college football what would your answer ban top to bottom. Sure you give me time to buy an if you want top five I probably go Big Ten Big Ten number one Robby go SEC second. Mostly because of bam a fair or not I'm sorry I'm going I'm going there they carry that weight ACC. A very very very close third. And then I go packs will be twelfth. Okay in my follow up to that would be and you can switch by the way CC SEC I don't care they're interchangeable free and yes they're great how does that change it all for you in the last month not whatsoever really you know I feel about it. Really I saw highs so so let's let's I hate all right bull perception and I know you stupidest thing I know you and sport I know you do and you know I buy into it every I know if you can look at a clear night visitor numbers like our leaders that was what I tried to join that last weekend being able to deal bull perception segment without too that you take in dump all of my party. But let me just rent is so you said you think the Big Ten is the best conference in America right this season yes I believe it was. Let's take a look at what's their best bowl win. Is it Wisconsin over western Michigan. Is in no I would say always it was Minnesota over Colorado Washington State Minnesota over Washington State seventeen to a Minnesota fire the coach him by the wage basically is a guy. But there at the big prominent games that they ran Michigan was taking on the third ranked team or second ranked team in the ACC. They lost 3332. Grand a lot of entries Nebraska had a good year this year some folks I say here comes my rally. They lose to Tennessee both programs are nine and four Ohio state of thoroughbred of the conference. Goes into the playoff they lose 31 nothing to Ohio State Penn State the conference champion lost the USC's meet third place team in the pac twelve. And Florida absolutely bolt raced Iowa. Thirty to three it was never close so I get that you kitten you can't completely judge a conference on bowl games and I would never argue that. It's okay we we completely disagree on this they're three and seven in bowl games I've what does that mean to me that's bad does that take away what they do in the regular season does that take away how you feel about Ohio State's season why I was a perception so high in the regular season because Michigan was healthy kicking ass Penn State won the conference outright and dominated teams in the second half Wisconsin and one of the best defense is in the country. And Ohio State was literally the youngest team. In the nation. And still was able to do what they did yet you know look it's tough to put another conference had a bum because the SEC is still a hop pilot garbage YS EC had Auburn just got on just. Stunning ascent TV yesterday the SEC that CB yeah Arkansas loss to Virginia Tech South Carolina Los South Florida Tennessee game when Georgia did when they LSU and LSU rolled global that was a good win. But yeah I mean other than that yes he is done as a done much so that's I think it started to totally in another conference. And I think their all a lot closer than we think I think the difference maker is your top end. Matt and and that really is when you win this perception of which of the power five conferences is is number one it has to do with your upper and teams because. All over everybody's teams at the bottom Merv. Pretty bad my I would argue that is the same chair in oh this year in the pac twelve the teams at the bottom end were. Much better than I mean as bad as they plays. I would take him over who's at the bottom of the Big Ten and who's at the bottom of the ACC and who's at the bottom of the SEC went granted there's two more teams and each of those leagues but. I I just I I I don't know I know we differ on this bull perception Timmy is such a grossly over Sierra conversation yet yet I am a lot of these teams are taken to three. And even some four weeks off between their games. We see this all the we see this from teams from the top five all the way to teams are ranked their first game of the year now some teams come up to gates swing and they're good. We see top ranked teams all the time to Stanford's of the world's the Utah's of the world they play a Utah State team they play in northwestern team. They struggle because it's their first gain in months now it's not nestled in semen timeframe but when you take extended time off. From what you do normally during the year. You're gonna have some roster gonna struggle and some teams can do that some teams don't have that so. I would get bowl season and basically just call a watch now the best teams always separate themselves Julia Michigan was so depleted begin now peppers that was a last minute scratch out. Florida State is he really good football team that we should not decide that they were in contention for the ACC they had a freshman quarterback. That's not a bad loss Clemson might win the whole enchilada. Passing had some pretty that's okay loss for Ohio see million in scoring points. I guess I don't look at ball performances and results and say well the Big Ten is three and seven now my entire opinion of the conference vs other conferences has to change. I just don't buy it there's too many weird things that go on for ball games kids are mentally checked out kids again ready for the NFL. Kids are still immature and they can't handle being in another city for an extended period of time coaches are leaving. All these weird things play factors in the bowl games if there's one generalization. That I might. Make it's that they ACC. As a whole as a conference I think is been underrated. I agree with that a 100% a year as cheesy as the worse by the officiating sewers but ACC is on the bowl season. Primate if you're gonna power rank it threatens us most impressively double c.s and has the media I know mobile laid an egg in the Mark Jackson did show lob him but outside of that the ACC play great Virginia Tech erased at third 2.4 point deficit beat Arkansas below Mikey fires that people argued Michigan should be in the college football playoff despite that loss to Ohio State for a stadium and it took a big comeback from Michigan to get into that came into the fourth quarter yes you Clemson their conference champion smoke Ohio State from start to finish a team that I thought was the second best in the country. Type I agree with you for the most part like northwestern and picked in the pinstripe bowl. My judging that for the big like no I know but that's part of the win loss record as a conference for sure is so ice I see what you're saying with a three and seven but leg of the if you just get a ballpark to Big Ten and I I do look at their Big Three teams their Big Three games which would have been Penn State the Rose Bowl and lost yeah Ohio State playoffs they lost in Michigan a knowledgeable they lost out. So I'm not saying you discredit everything they accomplish all year but I was of the opinion for most of the season. The Big Ten was the best far away the best conference in the country as you change anything you want that's right changed my mind every night I was like I wouldn't put another conference necessarily had them. 'cause the SEC has warts it's Alabama and everybody else. The ACC if if global would have beaten LSU maybe make that argument but they just looked like crap pac twelve is down this year I still think the big twelve Sox. So I what I big twelve is actually had a really good bowl Oklahoma beat Auburn should have been there they were eight for their playing and six can give me an idea I don't but I would say the gap is closer than everybody is why artist mentioning is closer together than than maybe we thought at the end of the. I am I'm just I'm not gonna change my opinion on the Big Ten I thought if we're just talking regular season conference title game to that point the Big Ten was it for me. Ohio State is still a damn good football team. Michigan when healthy I don't know Florida State's beating them a third full strength. And in. Who's a third big Penn State Penn State looked USC. For all intents purposes if they can play. What's USC like are they in the playoff I I don't I just I don't know so USC is a DM good football team. And they had to come back from fourteen and three I kicked a 4546. Yard field goal. To beat Penn State so I don't lose any any more respect for Penn State. And I think by the way Wisconsin is a fourteen you throw in there may be western Michigan count that they decent but you still winning your bowl game right they give their vote and and that's my problem is we look at the overall record of these things we say. The pac twelve with six and six wool the big twelve has seen over 500 record the SEC if you wanna say the ACC launches up. That's fine I have the ACC's. Third but if you wanna tell me their second I'm not gonna argue that I just. The bull perception thing really bugs me it every second you had too many non important bowl game yet aides it's is only casually factors and and then health and it just a lot of things man. Am I do wanna get a quick shot out if for the gambling folks out there you saw this how about because you brought up that Wisconsin in my day when I mentioned this. How about the blocked PAT enough ball game than anybody else follow that. So let's which came in the western Michigan Wisconsin game was out early. It was yesterday early mail then blow it usually three to 47 so this spread was seven and a half a crash discourse 44 to ten. A country western Michigan scores with three minutes left in the ball game. Right get admit they're gonna cut yet. Wisconsin block the PA TP when I. Tony for sixteen was the final descent and Apple's spread no that is a backdoor cut that is one hell of a statement your ass if you had Wisconsin on the Moneyline but yet you know it says it's gonna talk about we always look into conference as we like to powering come. Unfortunately for folks on the West Coast and I talked about this while you're gone. B seven USC had a good win outside of that not a whole lot for the title to hang their hat on. Yeah but I mean we never thought it was a great year for the pac twelve most of us Colorado says it'll lose by thirty to Oklahoma State nobody told me las they wouldn't be surprised I was thirty nothing. Yeah Obama's not a bad team though Oklahoma State he's in them in the big twelve in the big twelve we we've destroyed that went. Oklahoma I think proved to be pretty good football team they still played their. PO less of an individual and Joseph makes and he still played you know like his punishment was that he didn't start and then Oklahoma State. Let me go back they should know lost to western Michigan that literally shouldn't have been allowed to should've won that game wrapped. They had a pretty good year themselves had good stuff though conference Big Ten to three and seven ideas I like to pile on the Big Ten whenever I get a chance was fun to see Iowa get their ass kicked out this weekend. They what program if you're a fan a pac twelve team organ fanned organ state fan Washington State fan. Who scares you more moving forward in the pac twelve Washington or USC will close at the show that next on 1080 the fan. They ought to back into 49 of the Tuesdays are going well. 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I gave them yeah I'd say and then there's something not right in that situation kind of crazy doesn't turn you on. No no no that's not handcuff crazy that's like I'm an armor you crazy and come. You know and I seriously sudden not right Carolina has to do with money ego. That kind of career she's had a you know thanks I'd be remiss if I didn't bring that I've decided I was tracking I was like let's see I was only half an hour now. I had taped the colts football semi finals because I have the pilots in India to catch up so so I was like. By the time I got home my wife threatened Simi for the better part of two weeks or like gorgeous snuggle enough. Watch in the college football and there you go side no clue till the next day issues. Had rung in the new year in fine fashion. It'll Mariah Carey knows a lot of fun to watch await our poll question today today has him in the future the pac twelve and more importantly next year but we can also extrapolate this sound a little bit further. Someone said they'll happily jump on that grenade. They beat the out loud by I'd jump in Akron always react to each his own man quote present the data they actors very considerable anyone. Other than Washington or USC when the pac twelve next year. 280 votes we've got 64%. Say no 36%. Say yes and ask that question going into the break how much does. How much did they scariest to program scary going forward who scares you more should say Washington USC unit really looks like that's the direction of the conference how Washington Los lot of talented in the NFL they did. But did LeBron lost a lot of talents of the NFL last year too they did exactly right they end after years ago Peterson's resilient with three guys going the first round for Florida whatever was so what I. They view this the USC prospect is scarier. Because I think there's always still a question. As good as Chris Peterson is and as well stocked. He can't replace that many guys leaving for the NFL every year you candy USC. If clay Helton is the right guy in the right spot any. Yeah you concede that going. Mean to Arnold's gonna be their fur but at least one more probably two more years. If you're looking at the poll question though swagger art and this the tough Farsi you're looking I presume from an organ organ state perspective Washington say perspective yeah because there in the north you can say USC maybe dominate now. You still have to get through Washington and by the way every at Stanford we we inputs Stamford in this India I I'm not tempt me literally won ten games and how a quarterback. So I'm not gonna this club American at this glued Stamford from that conversation. And for me I just. I don't know I just kind of look at it night I say if you're being honest about it do you really feel confident without USC we're going against UC Washington deal. 'cause I I I would it was seemed Arnold different other what the year two. Washington Browning is going to be back Peterson still a damn good coaching may lose a lot of talent and it's gonna hurt. But it wouldn't shock me at all they're able to fill those gaps. So I would look at the poll question I would vote no. Just based on the talent they have little Ellis energies and I've been on Peterson over Helton. Which is -- -- yes that is I had done the easy part that's an easy bad but Peterson's assay for bad let's not forget the year how -- that I mean we jokingly said he did they were one of three accusing get fired a 12 whatever it was and I am it was done for him and he turn I think you are not allowed to do within that what you deserve credit for making that call exactly knew he was gonna lose Max brown yeah. Big assessment as cadet band back together while you smile and a second in as we look on your face. Just think about right carried out. Thought I sense something wrong or what you did say simply write an essay. You you you combine did you see this and ask lewd and it came out I was trying to math in my head of the word you just said when your off eleven days sometimes I combine words that I live I knew where you're going again and I was that was mixing up words so there has this look sometimes like. And are reading a taxed I saw him. I knew where it was gone bad guys thought about hitting the but why is blaming the buzzer as flat tire and step number and we didn't siding edited out oh not one was an agree I knew which. You were you're going between dismiss and exclude and it came out Dick scooter whatever so. But got back but it. It's gonna be back Higgins shouldn't folks even miss the any of it less front tires by Castaneda the fan a dot com ultimate out as well after the strain on Twitter give us a follow. 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