Aug 24, 2016|
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Jerry Allen voice of the Ducks, checks in from Oregon practice at the Sweet 16, plus Pat Casey, HC of the #1 OSU Baseball team, and what potential rule changes are the NFL considering for 2017.
The guys wonder if the Blazers loss to Bucks will haunt their playoff efforts...check in with Terry Mills of UM radio and wonder how many teams left in NCAA tourney have a legit chance to win it all.
Head Coach of the #1 ranked Oregon State Baseball Team, Pat Casey, joined the guys to discuss his team's fast start, and series this weekend with #9 Arizona.
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Not everyone I EC get pumped over regular season wins those are the days happy fantasy football draft today and yet can we were just like it Kevin Costner movie we should just be draft day today and happy Kobe bright day. Wait but. As physical the bride and Hillary eight and a thirtieth birthday yet nobody cares about this disease is birthday is that whites yet sort of this is birthday to yet nobody care in LA they made it Kobe Bryant and I thought they did for the number but a swipe to point out Hitler's birthday is 38 years old. Via I'm on that 38 years what I guess it was a few years older than that but I guess what twenty years coming and I drafted and I sat with seventeen. Actually on draft day he was seventeen when he played the NBA for the first time I think his first point he registered he was 71 of those youngsters with the idea late birthday I believe it's is this still the youngest to score in the NBA isn't it funny how we're cytec is that once golf and with a friend on Sunday who turned thirty. And I have another friend who's turning the same age they were in the same year in school but he's turning thirty want in my three weeks. They're almost a year apart. You don't think about that kind of stuff when it comes into athletic advantages or disadvantages. Neil Young kids in the old kids disappear almost a year younger you can't beat wall OJ Mayo he's famous for what he in high school he was the big prospects like he was right on James type hyped right. His his dad held him back for like a year and a half for two years so he played with younger guys believe like you aspect he was more mature more bills so he can dominate easier if there was it who is Malcolm Gladwell I think wrote a book about that we're here I can't remember the specific time of the year but there's something with hockey players and would you gotta go down the days in the months and they are born. It's all on a small window there's just something about being in that age window being born that time a year and then yeah I did it allows you to play. Then there's an astronomical numbers of guys that were born and that's a period of the calendar year as they can remember reading that part of that book which will always aim at one Malcolm Gladwell I can't ever the name of the book. He's got like three or four that are really famous I can't remember the name it either but I read that part I'm guessing you know that's kind of crazy letting what a coincidence right yet they're all born in January effect you exactly exact and they all end up being like pro hockey players yeah now the public and the Miley somebody's playing a tipping point in May have been the tipping point by the way swipe somebody saying they did it because it's 824 both his numbers. I don't know if it's his birthday I'm just on you and listeners telling me so don't cheat the message come once why guard. Come on now because oracle wanna cut over derogatory oracle start to the show has its lax birthday tomorrow it is a really carries Horry hit your hasn't checked out by two of Disney's Wear flip flops today you don't often cease wagon flip floppy is a weird mood today he Aziz cannot I got a lucky vibe fourteen things going on behind the scene I'm wondering if it's more of like amid. Mid a mid life crisis all you think he's going out like crisis on us as well I'm an out of like and be 46. Tomorrow or sporting bodies. Okay how easy is. We corrected me on a number is 45. You know we are right at the precipice of full go time here at the station and brought him bury our heads and outlook up until February exactly so. To a certain extent right that's basically correct yeah no I think we just caught and they drastic subsite for tonight man it's going to be a good time around the something in that aspect like and that bulging type a team name I have to go through that for the entire NFL season. There was one other one that was thrown out about step stool you want to and I thought I should go a step stool. As I understand on a stool Darren what do hockey games because it might shortened stature. I think that's a that's a pretty good name I could go to any of those roads I think I think I'm lean in one point 21 JJ watts. That's back to the future reference about the trilogy on a little jealousy came on the income there's no way you came over them on -- around tonight tell he's on the do you Google good Tennessee team did you know on everything I care about I'm not saying their team name hasn't existed if you don't get out you know I was dollars in back to the feature to two days ago. Unlike the F speicher some rank right and I thought. JJY. Jiggle watts I love this movie. Football time anybody else by NS I'm not buying that I'm telling you I just Google the right now just to kind of like save myself yes team names yeah and the list I have nothing mentions JJ watt I feel pretty good if you're not playing we have four and there's a lot of leagues are going to be there and I put the four that are incorporated just with our show. Our we have deflated football simple I know but we also have. And 98 debris ease that's the favorite and I'm in that lead that your league we have single McCree Milbury. Which is Jason why guards league that is that's a really good one and in an and we also have led the league run by one Alex Crawford which is the league name is huddled bodies. Like come nobody's nobody's up that right that's a pretty good name I do have one last thing we need to throw out there as we need to like get this all go on for tonight. To I repeat to use two spots are open. 022. So like of the whole thing just a little thank everybody else's site up radio we had two people email me this morning insect could not Zack sorry during can't make it today cell. If you wanna be apart of Alex Crawford or both of Crawford's league so Crawford will be year out commission he's going to be running the show. It is the league huddled bodies if you can make it tonight to the independent sports bar and grill. The first two to text in your name and your email to 5530 yeah I have to be either by the you have to be there tonight first attitude texting and you'll look at those slots the most and you Nino here. You're in a commercial break free to sign up. Yeah so please do that you can let us know 55 through fire like dirt said I think this is gonna be a great time and it has been the last couple years that we've done this up last year I thought was a ton of fun. We are looking to improve it. There's going to be the tax. Prize giveaway so you have to be there in person with a tax giveaway we get some good prize giveaway Boston due to trophy give outs yet today yep best team name. Best dressed I brought a Jersey today for the event. Don't know yes I did now know Knight star like guy crazy Rick Meyer won my own I win I'm trying to run through my mind of what NFL jerseys you would have I know you have a Vernon Davis Jersey the only one I don't Allison Australia it's not really a surprise how a couple of Canada I almost Rodham Michael Jordan Jersey. Just to be kind of ironic is there a new number 85 on the 49ers probably should go duck issue go athletic tape new name. If Vernon Davis is no longer a 49 or man I got some time to kill the day before I head over to the independent I did probably do that I mean athletic tape and and whoever knew number 85 is for San Francisco I'll agree going their so have trophies for best team name. And best dressed I hope somebody I really hope this happens. A listener out there really kind of gets in the spirit and busts out Rick Maher Jersey something of that nature yeah I'm Tim Tebow I wouldn't mind seeing a Tim Tebow Jersey that would be fantastic. Not the cause. Of the policy could do on the bonds would be counter anybody on deposits Jersey Josh Wilcox got Jersey opened it well you guessed it leads old school do wanna go I'm. Help Wilcox makes a surprise appearance and and a governor from them but that would be a pleasant surprise I Texan though about a week ago yeah I wouldn't put it past the randomly shot a pop does that interest and that's getting too if you know right Seahawks Jersey that wouldn't be pretty funny that would be solid but I didn't I at least offered Jersey Kelly stopper who. What about what everybody has a but Kurt Warner C doctors Elaine around anywhere. He Kurt Warner. Oh yeah oh well oh Warner. Yeah I hope somebody has a Jersey we have no Xiamen rocking like they bought it they thought oh this guy's gonna be stud. Absolutely flame out Ryan leaf status they'll be solid I you know I couldn't I thought about this doesn't San Cisco a couple of weeks ago I'm not really a Jersey guy and I don't have any the only Jersey I have is a Marcus Mario to Jersey from the national is one of those title game lines of the Kosovo playoffs logo. And that's he bought it for me at the Nike employee store they had a deal on it I almost takes you this I'm glad you brought this up yet so I wanna get on to Michael was at some point to get an autograph and framed and put in the man which would be bad that I haven't got there yet but I was in San Francisco those giants gives couple weeks ago. And I was close to buy and a Jersey and I wondered. It in my Jersey guy I don't buy Jersey anymore I just I don't know why but what I ever Wear it it seems like the. Waste of money in my younger days they used to rock jerseys with matching shoes I just to tell you cannot I was pregnant we know used to in my don't really younger dance in the let me guess baggy shorts and what countries. Not ideas here you had your earrings and look past the knees are right. Vomit on your sweater are ready mounts for getting back to my thug days. So I used to you gotta do anymore and I'm glad you brought up Mario Desai what shopping furry shirt. And in shopping I went to the store. And I came across just a whole clearance rack number eight national championship jerseys for the ducks. And I almost got you kidding me 22 dollar he's got to be kidding me I almost acts human like Kilby. Pretty test that's like buying Christmas supplies the next week the glory that loan value. That's two years ago yes still Amar you won Heisman Trophy is not like he's flamed out the NFL by the way is selling well and Keeley Smith's Jersey they were in yellow green and white CU and hedge your options there. You're levered it was a good one somebody says they have a number eleven Reggie Williams Jacksonville Jaguars Jersey hey let me tell you sat out left feeling take some are Reggie Williams I remember Reggie Williams and I maintain. This opinion. Had he gone to the right team he may have been bigger house I thought Reggie will now coming out U dub we're not going to be dead bees he was he was a big time prospect he didn't in college you get this sometimes of these athletes. I remember watching tons of Reggie William games. And I remember thinking man this guy is PH yeah great hands good speed is going to be dominant when he went to the NFL I didn't realize that like six feet to 61 for you look waist smaller snapped up there and he looked like a slot receiver in the NFL and I thought it now well. The grand scheme of things a little JJ stokes on my mate will JJ stokes a long career. He would live long yeah it was like eight years and he was and he was a disappointment well yeah yeah I know that as a niner fan JJ stokes was a disappointment but they drafted TO and they ended up okay yeah I guess again whoever wears the most of steer NFL Jersey tonight's you will when we get trophies and you'll win a trophy yes so it's fantasy football day for us out at the independent sports bar and grill brought to you by Ron Tonkin Chevrolet it's going to be a great time. A lot of boost to be had a lot of food to be had Edwards have a where a lot of fun drafting different players in making fun of each other well we also is that a lot of people ask because obviously it's not a few ones are in the league and were excited to see you guys to meet Jeff we have match yet but also I'd you just wanna stop I hang out feel free to do so we've had listeners ask can we just come swing by and yet we hear and check out the event feel free we've had we got a lot of people do that over the years come on but come on mine let's have a beer just hang out you can make fun of comedy take Jane is Winston number one overall US economy for that. But it's going to be a good time by the way we're gonna talk some fantasy football today at some point on the show who. We will you don't strategy game plan and you draster just kind of curious a how people. Pick their guys in who they're looking at this year it out we got a fantastic show today we got John Dotson he's a UFC fighter they're coming to the mode a center for USC fight night 96 October 1. Ominous tellem that I think I can be run arousing a fight we'll see his reaction to that may be having stick around for status story began I he's fighting John Olin occur. October 1 at UFC fight night 96. He'll join us at 2 o'clock in studio and 140 Molly McGrath of ESPN a she hosts among college football show shall join us at 1 o'clock were kicked off far beavers roundtable with Gina my Zell. I'll bring her on a lot talked about in the organ state world so we're packed with gas today were on Twitter actor and Sprague at Peter Johnson and act Brandon spray get. Coming up next I wanna start here. Painting in the NFL a lot of talk about taking in the NBA but tanking in the NFL may be a real thing. For this team that's next he got turned spray on 1080 the fan. People are calling shenanigans on my one point when he won JJ watts but litigate its. It's and it's too creative for you is it at all. I think that's the problem scroll it's a really creative team may be it's very hard for immediate and pulls on you sitting in front your TV saying he thought bubble idol once complete 21 JJ watt isn't it possible. That I may have heard that some at some point. And I just subliminally didn't think about it I heard I think that is that realistic possibility on what happened there using your subconscious you heard it before and he thought wait that's a good team nice and cool team name in stole what's the cartoon and signed filled you stole the cartoon. -- lane steals the oh yeah that's right I know you're talking about ended The Hague in the bank and you don't realize exactly EA and that's probably what happened people college shenanigans are a try to think of different team name I can't and I'll go without now if we don't get too obscure of an NFL Jersey tonight a lot of people texting and they will be wearing high school jerseys. Which I think this I think that's rather awesome if it's your high school here and Al Bundy on how cool that the I've always wanted to rock the Letterman jacket and at a bar does that word out on a random Friday and see what kind of come together. We ought to name this walked around to these guns out does that say Cleveland class 97. And what do you think they're c'mon now. Do you still own your high school Jersey I stole my high school Jersey yeah. There's their problem back nine has been wrong with the name is it was a technically should have been retired to their fried did not steal it's. How tech but that thought I'd take away a much should've been retired yeah I was so good that they need. And retired I don't think you play for one year you get your number retired should be simply experiencing it. The and that's our networks some good stuff some good Jersey suggestions coming in at the fans excited look if you got basketball jerseys. I'm not kidding I almost wore my bulls Jordan one. Is where who cares where Travis Outlaw where Luke Ridnour I think that's kind of funny to get a Bret Boone mariners Jersey rock that thing you're just so desperate to Wear any kind of Jersey you're on a football when you bring the next best best thing it's a good excuse to pull something with a little dust out of the closet to now have some fun for an evening so I was I was watching ESPN and I am I Sonic Youth and eating here we had Mark Dominik play for NFL report. And I I saw this market Dominic was talking about the Cleveland Browns to a lot of people wondered Cleveland Browns. I'm forty got to hunt go on the browns that they're gonna be over under five win would you like to take that back priest and being firm like you thank you can't tell you literally already sent out I already spent a hundred dollars on the over I apologize to your children Mark Dominik if you're just tuning in hello Lamar Dominic. Had this to say on ESPN about the Cleve. Browns never given up on the season I will say it then there's 76ers in the NFL. I mean honestly they have chipped away every young talent they have they decided to go all through the draft and they're telling you are I besides RG three they've told me they were looking at 2017 and eighteen that's our real slam in about when sixty class so why keep him when you realize that you're just not this stuff part of long term plan for the. So I think there's there's a few things we can discuss when talking about the word tanking in the NFL. The first one is when you tie in the team that's involved in this conversation I think most people alone well they've actually been tanking for twenty years because they keep trying to win and yet they continued to sock. The second part would be. Where people come in on tanking in the NFL and I know the MBAs a little more prominent with this but I also think in the NFL more teams get away with it. And people don't complain because they tend to love the sport a little more yeah out. And the third thing. Sorry I'm don't three things that chuck has a lot to remember the third would be the number one pick up next year's draft like that's I think the most important part of where the team is going why they're going after. Arrival at its citizen because you don't often hear. You don't often hear this in the NFL we get this as you mentioned a tiny NBA the sixers have been taken for how long now they've stockpiled government a top three in tough fight tropics. We've seen a more and more recently in baseball are starting with the Astros and it paid off for them they got a lot of first batted three straight number one overall picks amid the playoffs last year. Other future still looks frightening you sit and now the Braves are doing something similar weather to sandlot we got a stadium coming and a couple of years we don't really care about winning birdie to let our fans suffer and then hopefully. A by 2018. Were ready to compete again. And make plans but you don't hear about often. About NFL teams and it's somewhat surprisingly easy answer is because of the roster size. It's not just a simple fix rademan jiggle the MBA in you tanking you get that number one pick and it's LeBron James that changes the direction of your organization. Like that the browns could get the number one pick next year. Odd to Shawn Watson is getting absolute rave reviews and a lot of people think. He can be a top five pick so you take him he turns out to be game changer. That doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna win right away and immediately the fortunes of your organization are going to change you know the divot. Hoping to because the NFL for all the parity that and Ty gets brought up in the NFL you point back to several contenders there seems to be kind of the same for five and Andy get a couple teams placed in there. That surprise most of the fans. The NFL I think it is interesting it in this sense. Of when you look at number one picks. It's an automatic. All Willis they get the number one pick that'll change their entire fortune right so right now it's to Shawn Watson in Cleveland. Most people Levine RG three some most looked to Shawn Watson as the number one overall pick. And if your brown thing you think that's the solution. I can just tell you like as a as a fan of the 49ers. I remember when they brought in Jim Harbaugh yeah the next year was the year that glut could come suck for luck campus suck for luck campaign in San Francisco was real not not saying that Cleveland is going to be what the niners weren't go to what title game. But you don't know what you have been hue Jackson healing and one season and Oakland he's proven to be really good quarterback coach I'm not saying RG three is gonna go win the but I'm just saying you don't know what you have yet we can make fun of the mall we want we made fun of the jets last year after geno Smith got his job punched they came within a game of making the playoffs. So the NFL can change so drastically in just a season that for everybody that maintains a decent just decent sock in go get to Shawn Watson. Well I think he got a couple you got a couple teams in the past the NFL it's a pump the brakes first it's not a given that he's a slam dunk the second is what if your team a lot better than you think the coach proves to be a lot better than years. That's a possibility it is and as he mentioned we didn't see that coming with San Francisco and year one inning ended up in the NFC title game I don't necessarily see that with Cleveland because there's now twenty straight years of them losing and not making the playoffs and not having any success and having top five in top ten picks. So for them to have one of those type seasons where they go twelve and 4115. And they beat out the ravens the dangles the Steelers for playoff spot. I'm just not necessarily see and it's an if I'm a browns fan. This isn't the worst news in the world RG three you're gonna roll out their I'm not expecting a whole lot out of him they should be one of the worst teams in the NFL. And you just trying to stockpile as many on NASA says he can now that the joking part is they've been doing it for twenty years and they keep wasting on guys. When they have these top three top five picks they December panned out especially. At the quarterback position. But I am high on additional Watson I I have been since last year and it was one of the reasons why. Only saw Saint Louis and we South Philadelphia. Trading so many different assets to move up to one into in the draft to get. I Jerry Gotham Carson once it did make a whole lot of sense to me because I wasn't up high on them and there was a guy like to Shawn Watson coming. The very next season and I would've rather if I was a fan of one of those organizations. Dan almost go with the Cleveland brown type of strategy not give up those picks go through a rough year like you were probably gonna go through in the first place at the number one pick in and rolled the dice for the shot Watson. What do you make of NFL teams that taint how is it different for you in the NFL than it is the NBA will will continue that conversation I just came across something Cleveland brown related. That I got to read to the listeners will do that next your swagger of the sports update. It's 1232 on 1080 the fan. Coming up in about ten to twelve minutes. But there may be some good news for the pac twelve making the college football playoff. Thanks to one individual who. To discuss that. We'll also get to Joey both say here in a second. We that's all thing now is a very strange story. That charge released a statement if you governor Joey posted turned on the latest contract offer from the chargers a chargers. Really kind of Peyton Joey both sinner really bad light. Are we were discussing the dole tanking notion in the NFL because Mark Dominik of ESPN former GM for the box. I try to get Chip Kelly from Morgan the first time. He thinks that the browns are all in on the taking that they're not they're not trying to begin till 201728. Team. And the reason being IBC's is acquiring just a bunch of talent a lot of prospects. Going get a franchise guy like baby to Shawn Watson is going to be in the draft next year. And it's funny since they came back in 99 and they've only had two seasons over eight wins. Who. In a seventeen year span dear lord does for brown fans and then here's the other part because for all the talk about the browns in the jokes about them you know they're there need to try to suck they will sock. Tim Couch Kelly Holcomb Jeff Garcia. Trent Dilfer Charlie Frye Derek Anderson Brady Quinn a Colt McCoy a brain in Sweden Jason Campbell. Brian Hoyer. Josh account those have been their quarterbacks. I mean hole leave hell why hasn't it worked. They didn't give Tim Couch and appear immediately it four seasons as a starter. And given enough lie and leasing in a longer time one that's why if you're Cleveland you look at it if you're down Hyundai Shawn Watson. On this is a fine strategy for me somebody Johnny and is any Justin didn't give me a simpler. A similar version of RG three. I yeah I mean to a certain extent but I a lot of the quarterback position is between the years and you don't necessarily know what the difference is there between RG three additional Watson and also you know you go back to RG three in his rookie season. How different is his career if he doesn't have that knee injury and and you remember how dominant he was no doubt dynamic he was in Washington and made the playoffs it probably beat the Seahawks in the first round. I if he doesn't go down and back game so. He did have a good first season and if you're willing to to suck for another year you don't reach out to try do it you're going to. And your you have jacket of the scouting report on shall Watson. I say go for take him but the first overall better yet to Shawn Watson RG three actually size wise pretty comparable to adults six similar players out about you know 210 whatever they're they're not very big guys but yet to Shawn Watson RG three -- -- built very similarly it's just about who they -- that has been twenty years you know it is you know you can make the same argument used I don't know that the heightened -- comparison but I would imagine Vince Young LaMarcus Mario and up are probably pretty similar so if you wanna go down that row you can make that argument about a lot of quarterbacks -- nick was the big compared to -- Mario and capita income Mario at a similar size similar strength now Mario and again it's only one year we don't know exactly what he's gonna turn into but so far so good for him. So just because somebody as a similar size and strength and similar skill set from college standpoint. Doesn't mean you're gonna get the same success or failure in the NFL using the old thinking thing in the NFL vs the tainting thing in the NBA is taboo in the NBA because the number of games. Is that why it's it's look they just round upon EF 41 on games he got to try and fill stadiums for it's not just. Eight home games like he had any and a Fowler if your plane overseas it's only seven you have a price point wise of either pretty close yeah I wouldn't reality surprise in terms of what you have to season tickets for NFL vs MBA TI yeah it's just you don't get that same kind of negative story line about it the suck for luck stuff was funny we kind of made funny teams like I was gonna end up with Andrew Luck is again be the COLT is gonna be dolphins I can ever the other teams are in that mix that year but. There are number teams that tried to get him you don't get that same in just say you don't really get that baseball. Yeah the Astros sucked for three or four years on purpose yeah braves are doing it right now right did the Astros became the first team ever to have the number one pick three straight years they ended up making the playoffs. Braves are doing right now nobody's bashing on the Braves for tanking item on your praise him but if you're not embrace and you look at you say it makes sense that's you know maybe get some good guys to get a couple of good prospects in and your tide should turn. Yes a Mark Dominik thinks that the browns are fully out eyes I think most football fans were laughing that they will lose the Cleveland Browns are always out of it they don't need to try to taint. This is an interest in developing story and it's the San Diego Chargers with the number three overall pick in the draft. Joey both side. They still have not reached an agreement on a contract Bo says not reported for camp. He's holding out. It's been really tough I think for both sides a lot of people just assume boast has been the diva here. And the charges are in the right I had that opinion and no I read a little more on the charges in their history. This is not just the joy boasts a problem. At least Intel today at chargers. Gave boasts a one last chance he rejected the contract. And then they sent out this statement. Saying on their contract to Joey boasts up. Our offer included an initial signing bonus payment that is larger than any player in the league has received in the last two drafts. More money in this calendar year than every player in this year's draft except one that Carson winds. And the largest payment in the highest percentage of signing bonus received. In the first calendar year of any chargers first round selection since the inception of the current collective bargaining bargaining agreement. In 2011. We gave Jolie's reps are best stopper last night it was rejected today. The offer that we extend it was for Joey to contribute during all sixteen games. And beyond so the chargers. If those details are a 100% accurate. The chargers gave both so one hell of a package and he continues to Satan no thank you. Yeah I don't know why they would lie about this publicly and that's where you kind of this is not Cohen good to me when you have a team that takes this to the media and they sent out this tweet basically calling out the guy that they used. To draft of the third overall pick. That that's all their duel and in this is gonna become a PR nightmare now. For Joseph we've also because how is he good account practice what's he gonna respond with an in this is all true I'd expected to be so. Do you not accept this contract offer your at your that your defense event he wanted to be. Be in deep thought the first couple operas they throughout camera lol balls and a lot of people kind of took his side because the chargers don't have a great history as he mentioned negotiating rookie contracts. But if this is true that it's the most at any. Players received in the last two drafts enters the signing bonus it's more money in the calendar year than anybody besides for Carson went who has a quarterback and the number two pick. And the largest payment highest percentage of signing bonus and the first year of any charger player since 2011. Join those is an idiot for saying no to that violated charges. Also added as a result we will restructure our offer since Joey will be unable to contribute to the full sixteen game season yeah. Without the adequate time on the practice field in the classroom and in pre season games. Get this thing is getting ugly like. Again I had the opinion when it first started that boasts it was just a diva you read the chargers history. They're coming out looking great right now. But Dave had a bad past in terms they detained guys in treating gum. To where they're kind of being drafted Philip Rivers a great example yet. Paul Bremer sellout for a long time to see. Quentin Jammer was a really famous one they DB that he took forever to get me camp as well. They've gone through this would be good draft picks before. But if this stuff is accurate. I'm I'm with everybody else like I don't it would join buses waiting for here like to get to a point where I understand you feel disrespect did. Maybe in meat what you water it guaranteed her signing bonus wise. They did eight in the fact they exceeded that more money and accounting year than every player in this year's draft except one and it's not adopt its wins out. And then an initial signing bonus payment that is larger than any player in the league has received. The last two drafts. What the hell is the holdup here. But this is this is really weird and I don't know what you do if you're seeing Diego going forward you can offerman new deal but you're not gonna get. We all thought maybe he was gonna go but. You know somebody say anyone's than them money to be deferred. He just has to two demands and they're not meeting in the charters are at fault here. I just and to me it's it's hard for a it's hard for me to take his side at this point you're like here's my thing is that we're getting a listener because I was reading media a San Diego times union peace to. He doesn't want the money deferred yea yeah yeah I did that. You're an unproven NFL player right you literally nobody knows how good you're going to be in fact I would say more people are on the side you're not going to live up. To being the number three overall pick. You've got to get your butt into camp at some point I was with them for a while I was because the chargers have treated other guys and fairly as well. But at this point would that kind of package. You got to get in like now you're just alienating teammates you're alienating fans. You're not building yourself up very well and you're starting your career if you're the third overall pick in you you feel confident about what you can accomplished sign the contracts go play out a couple of years of it and then you'll be able to renegotiate at that point make more money if you turn into the player that he is apparently demanding that he is going to beat. You'll ultimately you're going to get paid and rewarded for your success he had Ellison saying it's not so much about the money San Diego is just trying to make it look like were offering all this money he says he doesn't wanna play for and you may not wanna play for them that's fine his mom Marty came out said they wish they pulled an Eli Manning yeah anytime the mom comes out and comments that's not good I'll just say this. If he doesn't reach a deal any time soon. Move on to San Diego is two weeks away from there are two weeks away from the season's starting welcome to the NFL kid Blake you're the number three pick you may end up being a pretty good talent. Teams move on rather quickly it's a bitter cold blooded industry. And you may have some talent but if you're not gonna reach the demands. Odd that they're asking for your number three taking got to produce this season you go in there a little late you missed the first couple games and write the rotation in your sock. Yeah trust me it's not gonna go over well for him blows up in your face it does and there's examples just it was a what about what John Elway did he you know he demanded I'm not playing here I wanna play for somebody also will play baseball I have to Eli Manning did it. All those guys turn out to be studs John always one of the best quarterbacks in history to game Eli Manning has two Super Bowl rings. I'm so eight if you wanted to take that stance as a rookie it's not an easy one take the you'd better make sure you can back it up yes enjoy both in the chargers still can't reach an agreement. For Hindi I report to camp and maybe play. The first gamer to this season and kind of get his legs under him something came out that might be pointing to the pac twelve getting in the college football. Playoff we'll tell you what it is he got dirt Sprague on 1080 the fan and. This is durden spray gun Jay Nady though so there and coming up in about eleven minutes Gannett Jeanne in my Zell. Our first beavers roundtable of the season officially. We'll get the latest from Corvallis was there. Don't read tomorrow we're going to be live out at pumpkin ridge. But he went co foods Portland open. Libya Thursday and Friday I'll be out Friday but are shall be out there Thursday and Friday dirt in swagger on Friday when I believe Bob rob is out there tonight Disney's got robbed the enemy out there this afternoon though is proper out there tonight yet he's out there today. They'll be play in their practice rounds and a day or two's going to be out there are quite a hanging out with them so they're gonna do a lot of their a lot of social false put the ball preview sorts of things there are so. And then we'll see is guys you know start finishing up their practice rounds he might be able to snag again I hear their four yeah. So will be out there add up punters a dusting cam as well going to be out there tomorrow. Something came out that I saw this morning and I think he can be good news for the pac twelve okay ready go forming in this is more I'll admit this is more kind in the karma department. But it was the the Herbie awards I'm. I like derby awards I did do it's a good read yeah it's a good read on ESPN what he does even ranks like top restaurants in college football. He'll do the student section is due zags since he does like the 4001000. Guy the quarterback or player elected going to have that kind of season. I enjoy getting taken by the get some fun that they do. But he also releases his predictions for the college football playoff. Now do you remember last year. There was surprise team of from the pac twelve that he put in his playoff Arizona State AA issued the Sun Devils were picked by Kirk herb street to make the college football playoff of the worst thing. They got blown out we want against Texas a and M and a terrible of course no pac twelve team did make the play off. And I wonder if that's gonna bode well because his predictions this year. The leave out the pac twelve he's got claims in Alabama Ohio State and TCU gets Clinton winning goal for. You don't see you don't see many people would TCU and there's so that's kind of his sleeper pick this year coming out of the big twelve instead of Oklahoma. And Ohio State is is one of the younger teams and terms of the national title contenders go they do that JT bare backs you don't see atop Ohio state of course people always say. Is a little biased when it comes of the Buckeyes but. I do like the fact that we haven't seen any national college football writers picking a pactel team because there are laster Desmond Howard. At Stamford when the national title that would done after one week when they lost to northwestern we are made fun of them ended up having a great year but didn't make college football playoff. And that her retaken ASE is some kind of with the reverse karma a little bit that nobody's picking a factual team to make it may be this is the year they get a you know at this point at the gates for all the conversations we've had before the season started and cal Hawaii getting going on Friday. Problem pre season predictions and hoopla that we've seen we've discussed. I think at this point when another guy comes out and says that no pactel teams worthy you're gonna make the play out I think you just go the other way now in this in the Stamford maybe is the team never. Maybe it's organ or maybe it's Washington it will look like he's got to figure out pieced together a season and actually make it they'll lose one game when the title be in the playoffs this year one of the this is up for the other bottom feeders of the conference one of his surprise bowl teams in the -- awards this year. The Colorado buffaloes yes he's got them in a bowl game BI's surprise bowl teams this year Vanderbilt Colorado Kentucky Rutgers and Wake Forest mechanical for the bus to see them playing impose season we didn't discuss it Wake Forest sneaky good team to watch this year in terms of batting. Do you tell you explain I was reading an article and this is probably did you are such a degenerate man he had this I don't think anybody's ever said the words you know was a sleeper team to bet on a college football this year Wake Forest yeah I guess I gotta bring the article up 'cause I forget the coach's name but they were listed of like top six teams to ban on the season. As people we wait force that coach is really gonna turn the program around will be consistent bolted up zone is on Israel to keep the level despray in libel Wake Forest every Friday 230 for other degenerates out there to take in the demon deacons every week you never know Tim Duncan could be playing college football maybe he had eligibility left I will say this it makes me when that whatever I read this city mentioned the favorite restaurant thing that he does it makes me want to just go on a road trip like just drop everything and go tail gating is stadium to stadium every Saturday because these restaurants are good to be sound. A number one is the five in Tuscaloosa. Never choose the smoke in pagan penalty in South Carolina you kidney that it sounds amaze and it just sounds delicious number three is refute those in Baton Rouge. He's got Hyde Park prime steakhouse in Columbus oh my gosh I hit now one up when I go for the when you go prime steak house up for some reason many restaurants in college towns I'm not really thinking a prime steakhouse. Thinking more of kind of hold a wall that nobody really knows about lest you go to school there. And the last one is momma is on the half shell in Baltimore. Pool Baltimore and our little Maryland action gone sport that the terps. I can dig out once he also by the way deuces conference predictions no surprise for the conference he's got Stanford winning it over UCLA. But he does give yes sleeper organ is his sleeper not Washington so we kind of goes the opposite way. A lot of other pun Intel wants. Clinton is isn't a sleeper this year nobody's picking Washington is a top fifteen team in the country. Does not like in there I mean it in order for them to be a sleeper they'd have to be a top ten team at the end of the season. That that's the kind of expectations that they have with them that's IC organ more. As an easier sleeper pick because every basically every poll that's come out as an and that's when needed 25 range which usually means you're eaten for at the end of the year. He also has the welcome back awards that he gives out and he's got Ferrell brown on their along with Zach. Half full puff power for Stanford and and Evander dose for UCLA. And he picks Carol brown meetings throw brown is gonna have the biggest comeback season of any other player in college football one I think in it it's not just him having a big year it's also just kind of that the storyline that was around him that's one of the most gruesome injuries that I can remember the last ten years in sports and it's that we'll document I think most people know about it by now but. There there was a stretch there are people thought maybe he's gonna lose his way he's never gonna play football again and in to watch him in the spring game into the have a look as good as he did and has been rave reviews about him so far in fall camp even though nobody's allowed inside practice. Odd that to lead. Whether he has a good year not just awesome he's playing football again using win the Herbie awards come out I know for for certain college football starting yet that's three you know it's right around the corner I dive was a little surprised that he does also his best student sections of the country. And he list Penn State. As number one. Instead it's got a good crowd a wide out at night he says is the best student section in the entire country a white out anytime is great yeah idea LSU number two student section at Wisconsin. Number three to jump around Notre Dame number four. You have Baylor. Number five Notre Dame shouldn't shock you either know Notre Dame doesn't Baylor c'mon now I -- of the mind that there's better student sections around the country and -- yeah I don't know if I'm -- -- Mumbai and the -- but again -- their -- Baylor games -- what they held the line -- -- -- gonna -- on a limb and say it is a better one so Kirk herb street expect twelve team to go to the playoffs last year and -- issue he's not picking a tactical team hey maybe for some -- our purposes. It'll change once somebody asking fans excited somebody from game to a -- -- UCLA I don't think that was last year I think that was the year before that was two years ago Brett come Brett -- -- last year they -- the the big -- team to win the pac twelve and knock off -- again it was -- over Mario and all that stuff -- that was the herb street -- keeping DC LA in the -- -- won ten games of -- -- disappointing seasons like -- they still won ten games. Up Marshawn Lynch is loose in Australia. There's an than usual way to motivate a team never seen this before will talk about that. And Gina myself for our first beavers a round table of the season all of that is next hour to dirt and spray on Portland's Sports Radio 1080%.