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They are listening to the primetime with eyes against duke I'm Suk by the way podcast brought to you on the stand by your local less while tires and are doing the right thing since 1952 you not cute. Broad topix punt opinions in this corner right. This and it Bob fare quite. Right it's time for it on fire good father. You call me. I'm trying to amortized against do we have to get this program. We should refresh my laurel were brewing company handcrafted beer and local food and just approved and haven't always Portland's original family friendly group Laura wood public housing for. Bahrain's. Bounce. I sit year old the poor on time BF five votes you look at us we're here at Nike Oregon sports awards tonight so let's talk Mohammed Ali this our talks and NBA finals that up. It's been five. Odd topics and opinions still going our way around our good days and there. It's time for the by the hybrid club. And I replied yeah. I see incident yeah there. Anybody replies again soon on 1080 I heard him. Refresh I would brewing company or handcrafted Beers local food and it really ridiculous unless they do Portland's original family friendly group club. More aware of public house amber to review and. But throughout I don't mess with buzz that's their territory this thing out there we'll find. You commit to my neighborhood you've got endorsed the dead. Fiscal quarter giving your best fighters should have known better for our young Willis Santorum Mike and I think the first time we've never run back to back opens. For once and for. Baylor will not release the full pepper Hamilton report they contend that no censure or even exist they say the original report. That is now public does represent their findings well and they say the original pepper Hamilton report was designed. Exactly how it was presented because they wanted to protect the privacy of those involved. But they've previously stated that there might be a full report they could come out like in September. Think they worry they could not handle this any any worse they're cowards. I'd how anyone could have any respect for that university for that athletic program at this point the whole thing smacks it's just it's pathetic. Think it's a huge step back and combating the debris caution that we know on and on and on campus as I agree because now we're not gonna get into details on who knew what it. And who were being. The main culprit yes and no doubt and then the rest of we're gonna be basically silence after the can start to buckle. And basically what Baylor is gonna do is just try to hide behind this thing and hope that it goes away and hope you don't let him off the hook. Yes a few hurt if you were involved in it say you're assistant coach who was culpable in covering up the rate of women on Taylor's campus there. Don't know what a little lost your job you just move on on its goal that is sick it's pathetic it's just it's against the pass the buck. And know what taken accountability for what happened. All right Marshawn Lynch there have been some rumors that Marshawn Lynch was actually not going to retire but beast mode made it clear. He is officially done that he does not be returning Seattle's young had filed his papers yet to Seattle put him on the on the retirement. There's there's there's they can separate list but Intel Marshall which filed the papers he wasn't technically. Retired and then some with teammates that they thought he may still wanna come back there was a debate when Seattle would want him back. But he's putting all speculation to rest Marseille links is done. Number three. Harrison Smith will be the highest paid safety in the NFL. He plays to the vikings city's gonna get a five year 51 million dollar deal. Ten million dollar signing bonus and they're saying about 28 million of the contract is guaranteed including. Injury which. Tell you this all the time the only money beat you need to pay attention to these contracts to be guaranteed money so 28 billion. And you look at it let's say you break that up over the three years. That's that's basically what their committee to it's it's around ten million bucks a year in the at the end that three years they keep asking to take a pay cut. Restructure the deal or get rid of them and at that price tag he is one of the better safeties in the league in Minnesota is not a salary cap trouble. They get deputy Teddy Bridgewater is a big deal of this makes sense from Minnesota to keep. Are giving your best defensive player very happy that we not a big household name. Everything very very big part of what Minnesota is doing in Minnesota quietly has put together. It was nice roster. She didn't Seattle by the way in the playoffs from. Think some people kind of forget that may have a Minnesota I have missed fill out. Can't allow this David JU Sydney concussion protocol for the Cleveland Cavaliers but he is not doubt that that elbowed in the head by. Here's part though they'd not now think knocked down and it knocked out of the game. I've gained Cuba they do not know whether. It helped playing game three at game three isn't itself. Wednesday and he has been cleared to make the trip so I think Cleveland's better off without Kevin Love a bit CNET since the start of this series and it even carrier being. In this nonsense about how last year would've been different had they had carrier ring him and Kevin. Can we put that event I think that. May have been officially put to rest vehicle has been terrific on the defense and I haven't really given anything offensively. Certainly had more turnovers and does exist at this point kept lessons to be born out of your random. They've they've got to find something but right now no carrier and Kevin Love. I'm giving the cavaliers nothing but give credit to Golden State for taking them out of of their game. Still. Maybe I don't know. Number one I. Number Earl Warren. And everyone there will be no. Seth Curry on the United States Olympic basketball team of course that Rio I think they day report begins practicing in August. CN and curry pulled out today EC citing his knees saying he just wants to get healthy once the finals are over. I was so it does that open a spot for perhaps Damian Miller to sneak on to the team. Remember Chris Paul is not playing but nor is John Wall he won't be back from surgery so. But at the net at the point guard spot no home no curry snowball. That leaves four guys for three spots one is Damian Miller. I hear me Russell Westbrook and Mike Conley. Well you know Westbrook is gonna make it if he wants to be there I mean outside of that I think gave you limited them on this roster especially with the second half of the year he had. In the playoffs and kind of the perspective you see he's garnered there I think that daily limit will be on the Olympic roster and I think rightfully so I. He deserves to be there. When you look at it at the other bodies that he's compete against I mean Mike Conley is it is a phenomenal point guard and and an offer some different skill sets then then what Daimler has but if you kind of laid those out as senator Russell Westbrook quite because the cream of that crop. I think you have a hard time convincing me that those others are better than that Damien Willard. That issue or hot cited oh by the way on LaMarcus Aldridge is also out of consideration for the Olympic team enabled his name not because of that hand injury has got the playoffs that he will not be there as well it's brought by Laura wood brewing company now you can enjoy laurel woods award winning gold ability can't just in time for summer available in six packs are better Beers sold. So while we have a few minutes we'll get to Mohammed Ali and our next segment by. You have a problem if Damien Bullard. Is playing for the Olympic team now I think it do you worry. I think it's a great experience form and I know bad things can happen in it looks you know Paul George is you got them back get a win it's Alan I can happen at any time that. These guys all play in their offseason it's like Damian Miller defeat. Doesn't go play the Olympics is gonna pick up a basketball mean that guy probably plays year round. So why wouldn't you want the experience and in leadership a plane with the best players in the world I'm all for daily limit playing on the Olympic team now. If I've got a guy that's that's 293031. Years old or making deep run in the playoffs every year than yeah I want my got to sit like. A look the the you know if I'm Cleveland I don't want LeBron playing what more does that guy have to prove the for younger LA debut of their. That's just started to come into his own and you see what potential he has you've heard from lots of guys say they go to the Olympics is the best thing they ever did. It's far is kind of learning how to be. I'm up a leader and how we knew that took learn from you know past champions and I think that's an invaluable experience for young player like Damien Lewis I'm 100%. Onboard with. With him going to the Olympics I. In Cuba match and more trepidation and you do you from a fan I I just it's just a selfish thing it's a final fans trailblazers I just don't want him to get hurt and yes he could fall down stairs or something could happen in. He could be out for training camp. Not playing in the Olympics but. Man that's some. I don't know it's it's in it's it's all good Intel. He gets her. In and it's like oh my god why is he playing against the Z give irons. Well there's that do. That would that would suck so go swimming in the bay. I just aren't they all the other guys play you're right it's just one model them but most of the others are split their music group and valuable experience I just that's a fan is like man is played quite deep down what it wrapped in bubble that all but that's air. Re buddy and it's unrealistic I think these guys do more dumb stuff than you ever. I think you'll ever know in the offseason we expect these guys all to be like like JJ watts you know where apparently JJ watt goes to bed at like 830 year predated. You know trains for fourteen hours in just two that's all he thinks about this is not realistic. These guys leave lies and they ride motorcycles and mopeds and you know they they did you know go cliff diving you know Acapulco and all kinda dumb stuff and I don't believe in this this notion of Heidi. You know from you know from the game of basketball because you you wanna preserve your body again if you're old if you beat up. Then yes I understand he's a young healthy guy he's gonna play basketball in the off season. Why not have them play at the at at will with the best players in the world. And get a chance to represent your country I think it would be a wonderful experience form. Or he could go to a strip club and shoot himself in the leg all to leap couldn't say that in its leader has now told others that he did indeed shoot himself now. I do that well apparently. From from if you try to. And gun I'd gunfire broke out. And my guess is that he went to return fire. And like an idiot probably had a gun tucked into his waist band or something when he went in there to get a shot himself from the lower like it grief so they're and his Lackey and this is just a report but the reported saying that he did tell others that he shot itself. And they said in the release member if you read through it arisen this were some speculation came from this that he was accidentally. Shot. Now when your shot at a strip club that doesn't really screen accidentally the that you just got shot with the with the accident maybe that's where people like man. And now this report comes out that. You know eclipse himself in the lower leg pay he literally which would also probably go along with why it wasn't that serious speech his grades did think. Went down with Bel AM but it could have been worse it could've been worse he's really like he's also really like he's not New York where Plaxico Burress did this in your view do you is that the gun laws there he spent a great time in a year in jail the US downing Yosemite Sam country where. I juniors so everyone's packet doesn't see yourself do you legged Texas stuff like a regular Friday night Mac you'll be fine welcome to the club house on May be stopped going to strip clubs with guns that's. All of the public. I'm not winning you don't I'm not against your gloves are not against guns but maybe just maybe those two together. Not the best thing about just anywhere you hit it again. That could probably happen or maybe not have begun words gonna go off when it's in your opinion it's exactly can happen at a restaurant yeah. I'm all right so there's not 55 on the comeback let's talk about Mohammed Ali the most important athletes. Ever. Has passed and we'll discuss it next 514 this. Is the thing. No problem. No problem this will be the biggest upsets this fund investment. And I think it is being bitten that I have a lot of boxing just like I came here and defeat them big bad most though. That nobody could destroy a hard punch. On the on the dog if he hits me I'm in trouble like the sun and has them fight but I came back. And I silk the world learned that those for the past ten years since on the list of unbeaten another big bad strong morals thought. Knockout artist could be civil about it Simon has the knocked out paddle some price annals of pools of fall but he didn't knock me out. Because. He can hit hard but he couldn't and then you get to our Foreman knocked on Ken Norton now don't Joseph Frazier. True I did not come out I'm so fast and so hard youthful scientific. I'm told diplomats from phrase in Norton Smith and David when I meet this man if you think the world was surprised when Nixon is. And waited long before I lose my house. I'm telling you they've come down to 215. Pounds. Right now say you went to fifteen and I wait all Roddick I use the train thinks he's a fight I've trained for months of fact I'm chopping trees I've done some special. I'm Russell would relegate them. I'll tell absolutely intently I believe you can I have also little we're all out of handcuff light them the old London jail. You know Amanda well last week I murder. Barack angels own hospital Basel bricks I'm so mean I'm making medicine say. For the year ended Tiger Woods and my ten world. I zillions of guns and yeah. Yep vintage. Mohammed Ali Cassius Clay right there but guided the age of 74. Yeah over the weekend. I guess they have been thinking about because there have been so many great yeah Ali tributes there radio the TV and and it's littered with them believe it or not. IEA IE. Pains me to say this I don't Stephen A Smith. Gave one of the best ones city had tested Stephen A Smith had one that was phenomenal we talked about what he meant to and Jim when amply. You know choked up I mean there's just there's there's been so many good ones to see the impact. That that he made in and out of the rain that they'll never be another when he was the right guy at the right time at the right place and I he can never be duplicated again. Yes I was kind of thinking with all that out there. You know what in my gonna say about Mohamed a lead but I want. And so I've that's been thinking about and I've got I've only got two things because quite frankly. Anything ominously about Mohammed Ali is anecdotal. Because I'm forty. You know you're younger than me I'd never saw him fight beleaguered I I don't actually know a lot about Mohammed I'll leave the fighter. I do know enough about Mohammed Ali out of the ring the person the activist yeah like that to me is is the more important stuff change the world but. It again it's you know we can sit in and say that it's it's. It's cliche at least to me and I don't wanna sit and blow the eight about Mohammed Ali because there are a lot smarter people that knew him that have more context yeah. About him. Tonight you. So we don't need to waste time listened to meet talk about how great Mohamed Ali was we don't know that but it that there were two things that stood up and I thought you know OK if we of that with we have a segment Mohammed Ali which we should do. Here's what I think is important one. I think it's important to actually states what he said about the Vietnam War. Because. People that may be younger people art is up on you know the whole thing what was going on at the time. I think it's one thing to say that he. He stood up to the government's I'm not I'm not going to the war. In the impact of that. Is sort of understood. But it's another to actually read the quote. Of what he said and think about this so you've got. You'll see year in that you're in the sixties you've got Jackie Robinson who a decade earlier. Broke the color barrier in baseball these are these are. Heightened. Times. For race and racial issues in Jackie Robinson was more of the just sort of stay quiet but be strong I am going to cross this line phenomena take the punishment. But he wasn't. It is very Smart man but he wasn't the most outspoken guy right he was just fallen line but accomplish in the ambled. Mohammed Al he was the first in these very sensitive times to release stick his neck out you're in safe something. And ends in there you have the quote but I I I know some of the courtside. The guy I've I think I've read four or five books imam Ali I think I've seen every document that have been made about a on fascinated by the man. He's always been one of my heroes I believe he changed the world. And I think the important to remember about when he did that was. He didn't take the Elvis Presley sweetheart of a deal. He could've got around and easily just signed up for it never would have thought actually gone around chip troops and then all that he said no. And Ngo restatement but he was against that. You know that the famous one of you know no Viet Cong ever called me the you know the DN word. But he gave up three years of his career but at that point he didn't know if he would ever be allowed to box again. And you think about what he gave up in his prime in his prime three years of his career but he gave up three years not knowing if he would ever fight again yet admit that much to him. The social impact. His beliefs. They've been against the war and stand up for what he believed that how many guys who wanted to give up their career at the Heidi if it SP was he was he reaches US. There and he may never fight again that is the man that put principle. And what he believed in over fame over riches over sport and that to me is something that is very rare in this world and that's why in my opinion. They'll never be another one like him and he changed the world and I admire the hell out of them. Yeah that's life that's exactly why he's the most important athlete we've ever seen. Most important yeah same another one I'd I don't think he'd be in the other thing too is that it is the authenticity of it he wasn't trying to be a leader he was trying to be hero. He was just two guys following his conscience you know that's that's what he wasn't and now we're so's you know social cynically you know he's athletes. We wanted to speak their minds but why are they doing it they. But he speaking their minds because they wanna. Promote some of the envelop themselves into the snacks doesn't worry and the end of this bespoke is my indicator that means. This mine because he wasn't believed that people forget when when Lou all cinder and Cassius Clay. And I encourage it would go back there's so many wonderful books. And and and document has been made about Mohammed Ali. And I throughout throughout sender to someone sent on the text for your two bit. You remember when when they. Did this and an end and and change their name and in the end came out and in support of their of their religion this is not a popular thing this is not a time in America. Where in what was looking to embrace this they were vilified they were spit on they were Sean and in my homily when he made his stance against the Vietnam War he was a villain. What he thought Joseph Frazier it was viewed as this great sort of patriot Joseph Frazier in this evil Mohamed what he was painted as a villain yet history judge him. As a hero because he was on the right side of history and how easy it would have been to fold. In the face of of that scrutiny and an anger and venom filled much of of America they came at the man. And he was never afraid to stand up for what he believed in it if the world had a little bit more of that it would be a much better. Ice so here's they said it was is quote. Quote why should they ask me to put on the uniform and go 101000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam. Why while so called negro people and Lou Villar treated like dogs and denied simple human rights. No I'm not going 101000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nations simply to continue. The domination of white slave masters of the darker people. The world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end and I have been warned. That to take a stand would cost me millions of dollars but I have said it once and I'll say it again the real enemy of my people. Is here I will not disgraced my religion my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who were fighting for their own injustice. Freedom but for their own justice excuse me. Freedom and equality. If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality between two million of my people. They wouldn't have to draft me I joined tomorrow I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs so I'll go to jail so what. We've been in jail for 400 years. End quote. That is powerful yes and you think about it and as you said it changed or change the world and the climate that he made it in the because of because what it did to change the world was it empowered. Everyone who is thinking like him to finally come up and speak out about it in join him. And he would I guess that it would have been very easy for him to cut the sweetheart deal where he went around and shook hands kissed babies. And still made millions of dollars and was able to fight and go along the system and he said it's just I don't care. And how many guys are willing to give up their careers the millions of dollars. Face time in jail for some than they believe and I think that is something that is very very rare in this world where do you agree with someone stance or not and I'm OK with that I just. If you're willing to stand up and M and believe in something that you feel is right I will respect that regardless of whether or not I share your view on it. I think that's a very brave thing to do and I think again when you look back at it is in Justine. Because now he's he's viewed as this this iconic figure but if if you go back in and you read about. All week he this was not the case that's was not a popular thing that he was doing. It's I think that we don't even I haven't I don't know if it's possible. In the year 2016. For us to have a true appreciation for what it was like for him to take that stance when he did it. Write me assistant is it's it's hardy it's it's it's hard to even it's it's it's a thick about and so you know even in today's climate when it's so easy to do you. You don't see many athletes that are willing to take any kind of stance like this I think we live very much in the world of of the Michael Jordan will Republicans buy shoes too and don't want to offend anyone because it is about building your brand. And especially with the you know build that with the Penn State being in the in the Baylor thing and so many times we just we put sports above all else. And that was a man that literally was willing to put it all on the line for something that he believed was a hell of a lot more important and it's. War in the last thing on the other. The other bit that I saw that I thought was really did on Mohammed Aaliyah but I chaired a little quote from the is that these Jerry Eisenberg does the legend of the old sportswriter. Who covered Mohammed Ali. He wrote a piece wants Ali passed away in New Jersey paper. And one of the lot of one of the quotes in that I thought was really good as a guy that knew that new Mohammed Ali. And he said quote America first embraced him in his initial incarnation as the good looking big mouth kid who turned monster slayer when he stops any listen. The ruling Cassius Clay became enmeshed with the nation of Islam. A group that was more afrocentric COLT that religion GO Christian America bull black and white grew uneasy. When he tried to classify himself as conscientious objector to the Vietnam War chauvinistic America both black and white got furious and called him a coward in a traitor. The anti war factions. Anointed him as an icon in truth he was neither he was simply a guy who said what he thought that. And I thought that was a really good quote from a guy who knew Mohammed Ali and he did it in I think his point there is no matter what the issue. Here's guys not afraid to put on line tell you here's what I thing in the world commitment it is a world would be a better place it would be that it would be but it is important to be right. In my keys and you mentioned it earlier but he was on the right side of history I mean it's like I'm not gonna Suton and law anyone who so said fasten their beliefs of their beliefs. Are absolutely wrong and discriminatory. In that was the thing about him seem power so many people. To. And he was also a human being that was allowed it to rally cassette as I've I've read. Many different autobiography and he did change legislate yes some of them that were written in this in the 1970s it's on the were written later. In it's it's you can see his progression that he made and he was a flawed man that was willing to write it. Past mistakes he was voted him out a man that said I've I changed the way I I view. You don't do that the white vs black thing the way I view the nation of Islam. And he was never embarrassed by it was all part of his growth and in the end kind of a almost spiritual journey. And tied it again I'd just is so much I admire about him. But that was the other part outside of the fact that he had the courage was that he wasn't afraid to. It admit that he was wrong and he wasn't afraid to admit that did views of the world they changed as he. Grew in an experience more of life and I just don't think it or out of the range that we will never see another athlete that had the cultural impact. While being Jackie Robinson though he came before but it just think. That those sort of guys in the impact they've made I just don't know of a modern athlete. Can ever make that that sort of impact again. All right you can text at pantex sign a 55305. DM BA finals are they over that is next it is 532 were out at Nike today the organ sports awards this evening. Here it's Nike world headquarters the 64. Annual Isaac and Suk on the fan here is will with sports owner. They just can't forces left but he got fourth annual fan golf classic card I'll turn it. Presented by Papa Murphy's that you could win 82016. Subaru Outback with the holed one on the thirteenth hole. Out at Langdon farms will play Monday or Tuesday June 27. Or 28 bull 130 shotguns I believe they're still few times left in bowl. Ended it is a great time 500 dollars for foursome in you can purchase your foursome securely online on our web site. 1080 the fan dot com we are down to single digits though. For total so I don't know exactly what the witches which was which is which but it's it's I think we've got like six or seven left. So if you do you wanna play and you should it's a great time popular event get into it now. Peso the NBA finals have been a dead on the warriors lead the cavs. To zip. He really with you've gotten like maybe a quarter and a half of compelling basketball via. I guess in game one in the third quarter when Cleveland pushed. Into the lead yeah that was pretty interest thing and then. In the in this winning game two they got out that any big what got to a 63 point lead. It looked like they might be able to do something and and then the avalanche came and it was over in the second quarter and it was over Murray the very definitions here. Cleveland's team bullets fell like they can they broke the steamers back. They Cleveland had no fight in them whatsoever you mentioned this earlier but when when Golden State was plain Portland. We you know that that goes it's gonna go on these drugs he just it's just it's it happens they they score in bunches. But it felt like a lease with Portland there were some resiliency there there was a little bit of a push back. Still like in this series and all that they Cleveland has had zero push back when they face adversity. Well this is I mean that's sort of Cleveland now in the Bronx has kind of had this reputation over the years it's it's it's it's that is part. Of why people try to pick LeBron apart and that you know I don't think this is an indictment on LeBron. Quite frankly I just think Golden State is acted. They are clicking again they think they were vulnerable. When they were playing the blazers and I thought they showed some vulnerabilities in Oklahoma City local cities is a better version of Portland. So all publicity almost an almost have children. But I think then winning those three games into winning that series getting to the finals I think they're they're cranked it cranking again. It when their Franken. Man they're tough and of course I think if the blazers played him now as opposed to win they played and it's a different series even. Even seem to teams you know I mean yeah I knew that that their click it now they're their back and you know they can't let their hair down so I think there were vulnerable at a time they're not anymore. And they know they're better than Cleveland so I just don't think that this is an indictment at all in Cleveland but if you do you want to criticize Cleveland. I think it's that. It's that they do not seem to be able to take much of a punch I mean Portland. I think the they're they're sort of the identity is. Gold so it's gonna punch in punch and punch you in public import is gonna keep trying to get back up to keep backed up give back up Mina the horses. But that's their identity. Cleveland is different it just as if for a finals team for a team that that many thought was a championship. Level team and a lot of people picked Cleveland. Which dozens it's insane to meet that. They thought this was it may be just too much respect for the barometer which are just giving him too much credit because that team does not have what it takes to Beagle state. So none of that is it just kind of is what it is right it's just that Cleveland. Doesn't seem to be able to take many punches before folding and I think that makes. People resents them and him get the soft label him because he's using your quit or what what car it's the final. Want a cease and scrapping even even before the game was completely out of hand. 5050 balls and Indian Indian of them just balls being tipped around and just kind of the the the physical nature of the play. It just felt like Cleveland. Wilkes. Yet it is that they just they don't play as hard don't play scripted an artist top and they guarantee they did and it's as Golden State and then you know than just you know the particular favorite didn't. I just if you're Cleveland I don't know what you do going to other than just saying you're gonna go home you're gonna play better. Because you can't move the ball on the perimeter because Golden State can switch everything across all five positions. Outside LeBron you don't have mismatches and they seem to be fine would let him abroad get the ball where every once. The ball the free throw out in the back off three to four feet on it. They're not give us they're not gonna double team him they're not sagging into the middle to try to keep him out of it. Because that frees up shooters and no one else on Cleveland's roster right now appears to be able to create their own shot. Tiger been attempted if he's got as many turnovers as he does this is the fact that he gets more turnovers than assists right now in this game. If Cleveland in the series means it can yeah lead in the in this series Cleveland is twelve of 44 from three in the series yeah. That's 27% and that that is not a coincidence they're not just shooting the ball poorly the number one team against them this year. In terms of their three point percentage being the lowest of any team they played was Golden State. We'll see is now beat them seven times wrote and you know what has happened the last three times gold status on the Cleveland they've kicked their butt by an average of 21 points. Cleveland does not have what it's it it's all up matchup step in Cleveland does not have what it takes even with LeBron even with Irving it looked healthy. Two to matchup tickled say because you just everything you brought up was offensively. Cleveland's defense is garbage against Golden State do you see their carrier ringing Kevin Love are getting absolutely own. Kyra your being and Kevin mobile they I think what is the stat that college. Is it is a personal. Personal truth field goal percentage so basically Woodward did that at some convoluted metric but when tiger getting Kevin Love are guarding their guy. Their player is bulls' shooting over 50%. In this series and cart every Irving shooting percentage. When Pete when he when he's guarding someone I think is 61 or 62%. So what people are shooting the ball on card reader be there she needed a better than a 60%. Clip. On those two right now you're out cannot win. When you're doing that and if you are gonna be that bad defense they've people knew going in they are gonna put him in a pickle ball they're gonna isolate those guys. You have to be able to do something on the other end it is to mitigate that you if your would you give up ten. Plenty to do Sean everything you've got to be able to go down on the other hand and try to match that and with Tyree and with Kevin Love right now neither one of them can't. Neither one of them get their shot off their not. Kevin Love is an athletic enough and carry your event is is basically being forced to go one on one hero ball. Input of terrible shots via. I don't know. I don't outside of LeBron going what he did last year in the final and I think that's the route you go when you stick people at the three point line and you see LeBron you keep driving until they collapse on you and then if that happens try to kick out of not. You're gonna shoot the ball 31 times that it gets seventeen attempts. In game two LeBron needs to double that if they wanna have a hoping game. He's Tryon he's frustrated in Golden State's defense should be given credit they've got guys they got three guys that can throw at him. It is we are talking about earlier there was only if you include Barnes the other shoe yet and as they can Thompson Iguodala in green but yeah block me they're just the warriors curse. They are the only team ever that I can think of that just has. All the way down to the end of their bench they have a different guy who win Maine needs something let's say they're playing in a series and they suddenly need. Strength of brute strength up front okay. You go in the NFL let's say bogeyed eight bogey yeah let's say you need. Us. I don't know some other some other skill set it's completely different of those three guys. Okay. We've got to Livingston right over there let's put him if everybody is so versatile. They are really. Well built in that way and it's just it's like what he'd. Mean what do you do. I do what you do so I think to your point about how they come back I only they do come back but their best bet is again. Hoping to Kevin Love has concussion and stays out because he's getting exposed. And put their best defensive team on the floor give the ball LeBron and say. It after big Fella that's that's the only chance and even then he's gonna Wear out yes he runs he can't carry that load your cancer. Not not when goal of these play this well and then there's the other scary thing is if you're Cleveland is. You just got done suffering the worst two combined defeats in game one game to an NBA finals history. And you can make the argument that Golden State hasn't played particularly well they you know step curry great Thompson neither one of them had a great series. They combined for what twenty points eleven and nine in game one and they had twenty turnovers a game to. You can make the argument that gold thing is giving you opportunities to maybe hang around this and you've got it handed to you and both of those games. What happens it's definitely a great content privately start playing. The bet that the best player in this series including LeBron James has been dream hungry and it pains me to save dad. That he's a horse's ass but dream on greed has been the best player in this series will they are. So that was the seventh worst loss of. Finals history for Cleveland last night and I believe. This is the largest point differential after the first two games of the finals ever ever. And to think that Golden State has built that on Cleveland. Where neither stuff curry nor Klay Thompson got to Taiwanese in either of the first two games are you. Kidding me no way news. This week we may not get more than four games this just maybe maybe it may be well who's this I think clearly it's one and what do you think you can tax the F can't text 955305. Is this series over. Who who. Mean you look around the league is that Oklahoma City that's best built to beat Golden State if you need one team how do you go about repeating them in the seven game series. We'll get some of those coming up next in the club hour in ten minutes here on 1080 defense. All right a couple of text here. Jason. Let's do it. Mas double starting game three. A wrinkled Golden State is yet to see all year trying to outrun Golden State isn't working. Now army must gov that he didn't play in the playoffs basically for Cleveland I think going into this series I think he plays like a grand total of 48 minutes. In the in bed and at this point I. I don't know what else you do but no I think that's a Smart I don't big Golden State's gonna minded and that's the thing is if Cleveland wants to go big. Bogut had a huge impact he had five blocks. Only Golden State's gonna mocked in Cleveland going big but if you're the cabs you'd have to deal that he something you have to have some sort of inside presence. I I thought that they they went away from Kevin Love inside and I think if love is able to play I know love's ability suit does the three is is a big deal. But they have to be able to get someone that can get easy looks they have to have someone they can force Golden State's. To change what they're doing defensively. And maybe that's my god maybe it's love. But they have to find a way to free up their shooters because they don't have guys they can they can get open looks at the three point line and you're not gonna beat Golden State being outscored. They got outscored by thirty points just from the three point line alone. In game two years he can't happen. Coach. Couple of other text here a Golden State has been disrespected. And been told no it's not the best team they can't match up with this thing can't matchup against bigger teams they can't do this get to that. And I think gold stayed as chip on their children they're gonna make a point by sleeping Cleveland question is does Toronto blue come back. I would assume so. I just. ED does have a good relationship with with LeBron James people gave him credit you know for for kind of given this team to to where they're out and and by the way I know it's in the east but let's not act like Cleveland had that horrible season they. They are in the NBA finals they're getting him to buy gold they've but a lot of people got into Michael. That's another thing that I don't know the coach is the probably the way the roster assembled is the bigger problem Indiana. That's them yet their outlet that's not Tyrone whose fault. Well no but you keep you better coaches and it's just that EU you have the GO with with LeBron Snyder ordinary roster because of him that. Yeah I wonder about them I mean hey what edu I think you trade Kevin Love. And is that would have to be at the trade right he's not a free you know both love Indian carrier reader both locked up so if either one of those guys goes. Yet to trade him I would be under the the notion nod to keep you more for Kyra you're being that you could for Kevin Love. I don't know would have I don't know what the market is you have a level as you point guard. No mean there's always been their rumored that this may be low census might be interested in in some than maybe the Chris Paul thing has has run its course interest in. Well Allan man that you want yak is Chris Paul the broader market but it was different that's interesting it makes sense if Paul would want to lead the clippers but. I just I think you deal Kevin Love and I think you try to assemble. As best you can't a group that can better that is better equipped to toot specifically tackle Golden State. Because they're not even close with Golden State standout year year point they are a really good team and they would. I think they were played great series against the spurs. I think Oakland city would beat them but it would be tougher series. Gold states just a different animals let's not just dismiss Cleveland as they old their garbage but. The east sucks I mean it really does suck and and so this is now with the seventh finals. The fifth that he's gonna lose the only time he's won as we actually had a team that could defend the in that was with Miami yet Dewayne wade and Chris Bosh and those guys. That has to be part of the narrative I mean it is really crappy in the east and that's why would a bronze been to so many finals take nothing away from and he's gotten there. But he's 31 I think he'll turn 32 next year and I think you have to realize you're Cleveland that. If this series continues the way it does and I don't know why it wouldn't. Barring some sort of miracle or like a freak bus crash worthy goals he wears aren't able to play. You've got. Three really ski three more years of LeBron being able to carry a team. At some point when he hit 3435. The brought they think carried a team single handedly anymore through the east and maybe these does continue to improve so. I don't think you can just sit there and say well our team to mature and we can develop. I think if you're Cleveland you have to find some things that you can do in the off season. The vastly improved this roster otherwise all you're gonna do is go to the finals next year and have the same thing happen. You're good enough into the finals that year in the east and you're just not good enough to Wyatt another Texas everyone thinks scoring claim are the ones beating Cleveland but in a way they are because Cleveland limited defense is focusing on stopping them at least a space for the guys you know there's an element that Michael stated so good. Sony different guys have I think it for for stretches of the Cleveland is that a good job of running get those guys that. Other times it DC and wide open looks underneath the rim because of though it is all interconnected feel bad for the city Cleveland. A little bit I I was hoping that Cleveland would get him but it's it is only hit it it doesn't look good but LeBron is not going anywhere. Announce. You never know what happens. Down the road maybe you know old saint has an injury or something in our. Did they the series is they need stiff period right now to be Cleveland because I don't think they do. Seems like I think Shaun Livingston would be able to us to handle that load just fine I we're here at Nike tonight it's the Oregon sports awards 64 annual here at Tiger Woods center at Stanford theatre in the campus and Nike in the world headquarters that we have one more hour it is club and eighty. And it is coming up next here on 1080 the fan.