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Dirt & Sprague, Tuesday 4-19-16 Hour 2

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Ben Golliver of SI.com joins the guys to discuss the NBA Playoffs, and could the Browns being showing signs of wisdom by shopping the #2 overall draft pick.

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Based break here thanks for listening to the dirt and Sprague podcast brought to you on the fan by your local less Schwab tire center doing the right staying since 1952. This is stirred in spray. You know as you got. How fast your god. I'm 68 nuclear indeed Johnson who you got to understand that I don't come up with this stuff is forwarded along. You wouldn't arrest a guy who's just delivering drugs from one yet another and Brendan. Wood and I am rather before you ever loved school. He's in both. I want people to be afraid of helps yeah. Dirt and sprayed served up at buffalo NBA you can Milliken thinks that the school. I think it's Greg could you look great until an 86 and first welcome in our June endurance Craig served up by Buffalo Wild Wings wings mere sports if you missed our one intentional less Schwab tires podcast at ten ED the cnn.com we'll leave it out after the show. We've got a lot to get to hear in the second hour of the Cleveland Browns finally smarting up in my opinion the browns are doing some unlike brown. Things though you're telling me that's what I'm telling you but we're gonna start here in the NBA the playoffs are under way the blaze is getting ready for dean to against the LA clippers are down. One game to nuns are gonna bring on friend of the show SI dot com Ben golf over on Twitter at ten dollars joining us in the guild mortgage. Mobile hotline is a series over already banned or do you expect the blazers to responding game to. Law yesterday and said that yeah Oklahoma City underdog reversers Thorpe or some Markovic the in the thick white. I think. Clearly the clippers or the committee position after game one. I don't think it through the blazers had a look at that game lead in the corner of the situation where literally zero figured what according like nothing really worked. Damien could get off BJ did quite well. The secondary shooting just what would there be triggered deep threat was the best. Like record was back and LP and importing like a big RX factor a creek all in total command of the game. Like everything that you don't want after all simultaneously gave what it up and frankly from a little appoint better and I opted beacon. UniCredit energy to the idea that well I can't be worse you know popping could have beat you appear. Or pick your Portland. Immediate that it will start with regard to begin regular in Egypt called aren't gonna talk quietly or get better look. I think more consistently get culprit. Ordered not to be able to keep up and shoot well equipped. Yeah I you know on and back alleys and my question Ben is you know Dave Miller seven to 1721 points we know how bad the matchup is for him is is numbers are down against the clippers across the board. I'm from where they were for his regular season averages and you know those seventeen shots may be what three or four Vollmer clean good looks and how did they go about trying to free him mop. To get him going maybe early because it seems like he was just in goals by the clippers defense. What actually dropped like big you know you've got our clips in a media call about that her or log either back to be pretty tricky. You know a lot of these schemes they want out of court sometimes I pictured on the court and not Portland you know probably bet he could apply to Google dot what I want to. Is that necessarily aware that the vote could use it to Beijing had been at a creating groups that DB or. You know a part of it I think you talk about. About getting off the ball more and that's pretty good idea you can bet that more street or more multiple screens or where your that you guys come up peak in kind of one you know Chris all we'll call it almost. You're gonna have to get creative tricky with the but you know public it personnel of the unique take a look at Al crowd well you're morbid blog site the regular cookies more shooter. I BP get help create space there. But it they're really top action they're negotiating getting blocked out by Chris Paul because it bought an old he'd be in the literature out into darker but frankly about two years goalies to edit their thing about their curricula RB Chris Paul is old accord would always I'd be you know work at. And it really putting it through your top secret that you know. Possessions aren't good again so. It require you know a little bit of everything you know. More screens are more off all play maybe better shooting the road at that hopefully someone to cook. We're tying with the SI dot com's Ben Dahlberg. Joining us and invite him on Twitter at bend Oliver a who's gonna have a better night in game two Al farouq Aminu or Blake Griffin. Well you relative to game one person. A radio. That was pretty papal opera community getting into that Audrey Roberts had yet to barker wrote territory words like course like their beat the shot the ball he's got hurt Kobe. Yeah a couple of shooter during the regular speed it. Well now we agree on the show what it because it and it seemed like mission pages giving it a point every target the group with the jobless. They guys is terrible there. Not much red. You're a little bit divided I would love that system in a point every time it's the rim they got a chance. It could go a step up and look I think yeah actually did a pretty good job or clicker could you at W that a lot of people coming out they all the old Blake is back in the court right you couple. It would definitely did that game and injury there's no question about it he returned. So but still you know offer community made it more isolation get a couple shots on the back that didn't go out. You know you what enabled you to treat delighted to be that would all expected the entire series like you Blake is going to create a lot. They're opposite so nutrition everything you'll want a lot of that I think if you know of any creature BBA ought to try out a little bit let the but still later regret that you cut that that's certainly true equivalent of. You know we were talking you know obviously then you got up a long stretch between the end of the regular season in the playoffs finally starting and you you kind of look at all the different matchups in the advantages and disadvantages and I think one of the advantages that we gave to Portland in this series going in Spragan myself did was Terry Stotts as a head coach we knew just kinda considered him. But you're that he had to be a better and in game coach in Doc Rivers but I felt like he got out coached. In game one do you agree that Doc Rivers out coach him and how surprised were you by that. I assure that the coaching would necessarily been that he get differentiating factor meets immediately you sort of you period to help level the clippers or. The corporate Cape May be a big advantage at all there are positions that Chris Paul the Audrey Jordan airplay cricket. I caught all three won their positions pretty Italy and that they wiped really all coached. I can beat you over the crops back to that we're going on you know it terms of like how how they used about food there a book called and things of that nature of outbreak. By. It you don't pull and got to consider kind of do adopt particularly I'd about their car on a Bob hotel the other had. They can maybe get a look at more wretched little bit more fresh crop that. But like package Jack about docket at Buick as a basic savings strategy or you if Chris Paul in Laker purple colored top opera like that knock at a value you have to have more about so remarkable document to a credible without lot. They were competitive throughout the first that he. I think just to have the clippers. Played it very very strong gave it they've been there for you know we like a joke about the quote I probably joke we got about the clippers forward terms of their choke job the playoff. But I forget BP a pretty good teams but opted he beat this current lack in the playoff. BP agreed Greg grizzlies in the playoffs what those guys were where you're there a pack. I'd be all of these. The Golden State Warriors aren't acting like your boat so big. Intercollegiate fire I don't think they absolutely any cure the quality of the they have major advantages. It experience. In you know it is locked together. You're so cohesive and any coming up like Packwood big culprit group. So I wouldn't kill doctor much if they get swept trees knocked out of five games like at the worse it there right probably could look at as well a. Our guest has been dollar SI dot com. I know there's probably a couple different things you could point to they lost by twenty points so they got to fix some things but what something in particular that you think they really have to do. Hit hard in game two to make it really closing gimmick chance to maybe one game to. Well yeah apart from your opinion TJ loser I think the cure your secret you know you can't protect you better than they did can't you younger toward. Always a lot yet key lake report from establishing that you are equal position where you can just turning your body get out. Yet layup. Arcandor a couple of really RIP a person I don't really know. Awed Portland's team like Hulu that god stop a team of people tweeting about a bit like. If you're relying recruit him and answered yeah at that though. It I think it's it's kind of a personal of a voucher issue. Ultimately it'll Portland it's gonna hope that those are the really odd that the offered you up with the clippers because quit protecting recruitment awkward nutrition English team. About or you know basically showed up for your beliefs. Every year they're right in the cup and the show wide because it got guys like Redick could be outside. It got multiple identically baker could audibly grip and all the apps that are wrapped like if you let up or beauty or you're adding that that are out all right oh great character for two point so. I think that the biggest thing besides giving you opera back contract. Is that security guards protecting the paint it to Rick but what did you. Or try to -- dollar and SI dot com you know and when Myers and went down for the rest of the season and we got a chance to see what Marcus can do is starting on opening a lot of blazer fans are excited he can on the floor he's athletic. I gave you some good spacing but it's hard not to think to the blazes are missing Meyers Leonard at this point in the season and especially in this series as big body defensively on Blake Griffin. Or does face a floor on offense do you think they're they're missing Meyers Leonard and using this series may be turns out differently if he's in line up for Portland. You know we saw repeat the court you're going out but what I did I got a cold like I think it is an extra body in general help that it extra space it would help you because you don't want more eyewear. You know you can go light out. Especially get bigger second unit where you've got more votes in our our use it so. You know I think that they would be able to put arsenic he used this series but. Bartlett Bartlett like you'd docket abuse and you're changing your predominant force he did what that guided. Brought to you could never happen but it does have its Crowe I don't really see an avid now level. Impacted magnitude. Again that the kind of where the clippers are put up there. We were discussing about we've I'm a Kevin Iran earlier Ben with a 26 missed shots is a loss to Dallas. Whip where do you come in on on seven Iran in terms of everybody else that has this expectation league. To be. Kind of one of those guys that leads you to a title kind of feels at times nationally. Kevin Iran doesn't necessarily get the flak some of these other guys do if they have a bad night. Well you know you're coming up the injury that really submarine they they cut it back bad injury book which I think at revoke a lot of those expectations. I adequate legal expectation there. You know it you've got 122013. I mean that it would be expectation about the law brought Katie. Final match up on the net and what people are expecting permit. But things went silent the cord injury. I and then you know frankly gold X goal all the pressure and attention and headlines now with cabin during a book project to me that was very obviously is we're shooting night of his entire career in terms of the stakes in the back that you'd call that. I don't believe that. At the same time it is an incredibly efficient shooter who we would be talking about it degrees opposite the weapon. Welcome barber Eric stepped curry did big that's right and you also don't quite are very consistently. You know he's got to three he was shooting percentages. You know in the course he's right corner so I think the edge chalked outward up to it probably I don't see that happening dead quiet. And on whatever the over under for weight you saw or three. According to Vegas I would just probably a raw data easily about forty or are we to keep Greek. Just sort of uprooted. Excuse type of performance of connect and a guy at all. I think it would make out like Rambo kind of the question figure out are going to get louder just because these are created. You know it or not I'll bet big east age economic conference final to you again don't make it to the final two basically the order that street even thought that the crop or that everyone's gonna wanna know you'll. What are your expectations for your whole career are you going to settle. For a second rounder now we don't yet I felt about not good tribute got her out all thank Allah. He's got pop politically are all a solid. He typical doubt in our league that's not good cop bad about what you're gonna see lots of rumors that they do all the spurs. Eric I would meg Oliver SI dot com speaking of injuries one that should be a little concerning at imagine down in the Bay Area Seth Curry roles the ankle in game one of the series they cruised past the rockets the decided whether it's precautionary of these don't need MD they still be used some that he does not play. I'm game to last night scale of one to ten where is your concern level for stuff Curry's ankle. What cricket you know fourteen Q could you were so positive and optimistic about anybody could play the debate back in about. So I think that automatically bump it up like 500 and the playoff senator Bennett a locket made basically already bailout he needed. There article you'd like to include as well look like art at all about but he did a playoff like you know just it got doubt it you don't rest on. But you know what will be concerned with Italy it you current all democratic cryptic it seems like you make you pretty big job and it so. Remote recent injury between a lot of little bit nerve racking. I think all of which they agreed there are used to be thought about the broad pack guy you know LeBron went missing a playoff game. That would be you know headline news everywhere at any point at the last five respect the right. That totally change the makeup look at it a bit because trust that they were gold they were able could be used to pretty comfortably last night. But there's no way they're gonna beat you up you'd like it at Odeo. I know all the that you they don't have that teaches that critical what they do what opera. And I think that they would actually struggled in the corporate prickly. If he would have stepped up that series so it got later in the crock of gold state and I forgot why you know a fair bit of concern. I do in order here huge that report what they do it because if you would fit into what the goal at all. Since. I have a little bit reportedly are guys around and you lose your game to it and it's I well I don't know about that try to fight it. A step curry needs to get LB Ben dollar and easy get L because the NBA playoffs are under way Ben thanks for join in us and dock in some moves man we really appreciate it. Are there we go bend Oliver SI dot Conning Bynum on Twitter at then dollar didn't seem mom. Breaking down things the blazers need to do if you didn't seem very optimistic in terms of where the series is at it. I think age is it is seems to agree with us that's especially after game one he somehow while the clippers played Blake Griffin looks good he looks healthy is run on the floor has been mentioned who's getting the free throw line. It is it's hard to see things changing but as bad also mentioned NN or do you what do we say yesterday about Dallas and Oklahoma City. We laughed about the over under of Hollywood by twenty points or more they went in there and one in Oklahoma city's legacy in an. On the plan that's a good point here from Terry Stotts Damian Miller remains optimistic and does the coaching staff hate the clippers. This much is the players the U peace prize by this quote we all that more this is certain spray on offense. It's coming up in about ten minutes. The Cleveland Browns may be on their way. To being a Smart franchise. I know I've won't believe that a to acknowledge the browns doing something Smart I'm getting by Zambian I don't believe I did it there's no way houses for a modern music though you complain yes and their music was too old I've got I've got younger today. This isn't younger. Played some deals is he this is younger by an 85 years from I thought you meant younger risen like a young swagger what are young's like I've listened to growing up. I don't yen he listened thank you practices. This is we call a high school starting college Julia oh. What's really college for your calf. The age difference on the show I was right. Back and forth you have serious run and manned worked in late. Yeah Astro modern music guy am I is not modern meat I lied to your request swagger is modern music. Help me out. Mock her. Yes he's gonna go modern instance of yeah I was in my time wasn't it wasn't made in the sixties right about splattered. The Portland trailblazers looking into rebound from game one. Practicing down in LA. And days there were some funny things taken away yesterday from the practice in terms of great quotes and there's some good stuff from game CJ Stotts. The ring get to that here in a second that's what I wanted to pass over. And I saw this is courtesy of idea and Sheldon of Comcast sports net. And in involves blazes is and coach and IG tree on now. Who had this quote in terms of the blazers engaging with back and forth for the clippers on the court yeah he said quote. It's hard to address with the players and tell them and not tock. When we as a staff. Dislike the clippers as much as the players do capital of Dijjer that I really do that's honesty we haven't seen Gary as exciting and it fantastic is what it is I mean look at the blazers there are probably at this point not gonna win this series will run out some hope we'll see what happens on Wednesday night but just release get the honesty and for them to acknowledge inside that locker room we already knew the players don't really like the players on the clippers. But now to hear that the entire coaching staff doesn't like getting in the Odyssey that looked. How do you tell a player to not trash talker getting involved in it when they're probably doing the same exact thing it was a moment during game one on Sunday night. Or Doc Rivers and Terry Stotts are kind of stared at each other I think it was after a Pak India Andrei. Then he did a Hackett Ed Davis he kind of gave him a glance down I'd I'd love to hear that honesty Terry Stotts spoke yesterday on the offense and what they need to do to make that adjustment. You'll see Jane dame obviously very important votes how. How to get their shots. But you know we we scores team we got screened well we've got to move without the ball would go plane we got used vehicles that are there's. Who just. I don't think it's anything. Drastic as far as getting a guy going your he's an associate people. Stocks on adjustments for game two we're not to reinvent ourselves in two days. We have to play better basketball and your world will make some changes at both ends of the court but. Fundamentally I don't think you change a lot you changed certain situations. Damian Miller spoke yesterday at practice two after their game one loss you got to be aggressive he'd only against me impassive so. Well I don't think those place you know its nuclear aggression I think you've just got to now let's turn and runs. For him. Catching ups blocking shots those are momentum changing plays and that's what gives him going. As we get their crowd into the game you know harassment and their fans come here to see lob dunks and blocks shots. Jamal Crawford you know this with a broad as the as the just figured awful and they they like to see done. And we just got to limit that you know is those who learn the game changing plays there. And one thing people point to is when you guard Chris Long Chris Paul's guarding you that can take a physical toll on you Damian Miller on that. She is tough. Just because it is enough you know guard so many people rose and you know. Help help off screens and and garner more on the block and got to keep more resize. You notice one thing I mean you get trapped under the noon so of you know is different you know we're defending him a different way in addition these. It wears on you stuff. So you know home. I'm sure will make some adjustments to maybe where some positions on not not gardening maritime worm and ought to pick rose. Just mix it up that way. No where we just got to continue to compete. So it seems like when you hear Terry Stotts and Damian Miller tock if they come have an idea what they need to do and these last couple days they've probably really been working on what they can do to free up Damon CJ yeah I mean that's the key they didn't they obviously had Damien was it was I didn't play terrible but seven to seventeen you want a little bit more on him only 21 point CJ McCollum a really bad night three of eleven. On nine points and you know I like to hear dame at least acknowledges gonna be stretches on the defense and then of the floor but he's not gonna be on Chris Paul. You know Damian Miller we'd love Emmys face this franchise I'd love that he is the heart beat this team leader this team. He still has a shortcomings when it comes to playing defense and especially against somebody with the caliber of the Chris Paul so I like to hear that they're they're gonna switch things up. On the defense and end of the floor and it was Terry Stotts mentioned there at the start of the audio that. It's you can't reinvent the wheel your team isn't a matter of a couple of days and I don't necessarily think Portland needs to reinvent too they are. Although they knew and they do need to find matchups that they can take advantage of because every single thing that we looked down and analyze in this series of saying. Well maybe Portland can win that match up or maybe that's the way the blazes that are at the clippers. All went wrong at basically the clippers won every matchup that there was to win and it's going to be on Terry Stotts sit in the rest of this team and now in this little brief period they have off. To find certain ways that they can try and not trying to. Clippers and one area of concern for some people was the experience factor in the playoffs the blazers is completely outnumbered in that department. And at times in my opinion it looked like it kind of came to fruition in the clippers is knew what to do in certain situations. CJ app practice on the lack of playoff experience compared to the clippers. I've done guys play hard and play well. Most aggressive out so kind of it hurt him a little bit mad it's that Lewis of his aggressiveness hood considered again played he did really well. Mason played details of formed Brooklyn. And it has played in a couple playoff teams we understood it kind of the atmosphere and playing an island news and knew it was going to be the next. Mean it's a playoff so you think both teams who arranges tee pianist a lot of Avaya. He's Costa so things are gonna happen throughout the game which is more value how you recover from a values you know with staying runs. So they have their first game under their belt just as a team as these guys think it all these minutes we'll see what they can do in game two yet look there's no doubt the clippers obviously have more playoff experience but as CJ mentioned their game's been their CJ was a big part of that series against agrees is eyes here Henderson's been their mean he's been their plumber he's been there. Oz so a lot of their blood of their role players have experience of playoffs before this isn't just there simply. A first time in the post season and I also want that then what you heard both from CJ and aim a little bit ago is that. You have to find a way to stop those clipper rods because you know we joked about it that with 354 left in the first apple into the one point lead. And then it was an eleven to two run at the end of the first at the end of the third quarter on a on another can number exactly what it was but it was another big run at the end of the quarter. You can't have those kind of things whether they're up to throughout the course the game or specially at the end perhaps. Or quarters ended Portland did not allow those to happen there in that game into the fourth quarter because they were playwright with them. A bit just like that a blink of an I they realize how quickly something like that and get away from. Our guys in the Cleveland Browns were Smart for doing something I got buzzed right. And dirt said now no way song wanna know from the listener perspective the man at the HR Tex signs 55305. The Cleveland Browns trading the number two pick. Smart. Or dumb. Some more modern music for your welcome back at 134 Tuesday of the week and why this this game on this one. It will get into the browns potentially potentially being Smart here 12 but I didn't pass this along. One night tastes like our founder is just notified us this happening. Apparently. There is an ice cream company that's infusing their eyes during the blues'. 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It's cool on the theory I just feel like it's gonna be over pride I wanna try it yeah see how well it's done because of it's done well how do you assess not be a dumb question for you but you guys pair ice cream with boos absolutely via I don't really pair ice cream with blues and others like some restaurants that have like booze he milk shakes like if you get bright Red Robin has the so let's just sit around. How's that grab a bowl of ice cream and parent with a nice whiskey years or port port makes great I mean it's a dessert wine anyway C a port may be to go with you know what every June and now I don't care I'm but I will have to drink some after rush and of course afterwards hearing now all you creamy ice can be take a break from the blues and not do that very often in fact. I will say I don't endorse many ice creams 'cause I just mean you don't really surprising thing. The last ice for in my hand that I was kind of my mind was blown. 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I feel right I'm kind of in a boat on the Cleveland Browns and I'm okay on this boat you're right. Frightened solo bow your broke ground this is a kayak this is a one out and tired of Madeleine right now your battled on solo on this thing upstream mind you you're you're onboard with you jacks in your own yeah us a year era or the home crowd guest the whole browns operations Sprague is a fan what's a complete. Just start over they have take Agassi has start over every six and a half months and a fire better GM and and another head coach and an energy and that's not not true rule I just think this time they may have hit on some okay the 468. Fresh start is gonna be the right one is that you're telling. Yeah okay well it sounds like they might actually be making a Smart decisions here although swagger might disagree with this being a Smart decision. So of course we know last week type mystery to the number one overall pick India LA rams. But now it sounds like the Cleveland Browns who I have all believe since the end of the season they're gonna take a quarterback at that number two pick. It's starting to look more and more. Like they're gonna trade that pick a source told at a show after there is interest in the picked. A despite them being linked to vote Jerry goth in Carson once. Teams like Philadelphia as the primal on that that's a lot of sources are saying. But the Eagles who originally were trying to get the number one pick from Tennessee now potentially. Trying to get the number two pick. From Cleveland and it it's very strange to react to Cleveland doing something very well in Cleveland like but this is very on Cleveland like and I hope that they trade this bank. It would give me some hope for their fan base why would you do quarterback here receives court right you didn't originally want me but according a lot of the only one injured guy who sounds like he's gonna go animal and overall so you're gonna settle for Carson when I've known no thank you trade back did some really valuable passage you should be able to get a pretty decent all for the second pick. Get that moved down and took in just go towards the Aries you and the got RG three you're gonna suck next here anyways you wanna take a quarterback and a top five due next season Hogan alignment they'll get a guy player to add talent to your roster as much as you possibly can this is very on Brown's light. If they're able to get out of that tool yes so yet multiple teams this article says surrounds after including the Philadelphia Eagles have been identified as potential trade partners with the browns. On they have posted both golf and lands. We got a quote tear from somebody inside browser is nation. NASA is a Jimmy. Sustainable course Jimmie has and is fired three coaches three general managers in a CEO the last four years is also hired three coaches in three. GM is none of them have had more than two years. On the job why can't you guys get on the Cleveland plain with the when they make this trade if they make this trade. I'll think about it. And you wanna see what they did not want to see what they get trade is gonna get you to do it because this I have thought I have if you would have told me three weeks ago that the browns are gonna do anything else than take one of these quarterbacks of the number two overall pick a little laughed in your face 'cause they're the Cleveland Browns. They drafted Johnny bans on the first round let's not forget about that. They drafted Johnny and hands on the first round the organization. Did you guys work drag organization right now and Zell. And the first press the former guys if they can get a handful picks and get a little hall from somebody don't matter who it is I. Think about it. No mirrors saying Carson and Lance. You're gonna pass on here's the operator quarterbacks potentially in the class of 2017. Chad Kelly at Ole miss sailed a bat third at Iowa. I'd Joshua dobbs possibly from Tennessee all nothing I'm a big Joshua Bill Russell at Baylor in. Mitch Leyden there at Minnesota that's good names are Jeremi Johnson Auburn but this is my home this was Michael we talked off wins. This was my point I don't know enough about Carson once having not actually seen him in a game. To really give you all horror fight your take on him but this is my point for teams that wanna go in on one of these two guys. I really don't have that big of a deal with it because next year's class is probably going to be war. Alitalia it's bad to like your boy that you love. Isn't even in is not even mention is because he's not a senior -- don't know if he's leaving yet he's for surely I agree with you but you don't you can't put a guy like that the draft class yet because he technically hasn't actually idiotic take from a journalist yeah I I'm with yeah I I still like to Shawn Watson and I've I would take him I've said before I'll say it again I'd take him over golf. I am glad I just icing Cleveland miss on too many of these guys that ages I. Take somebody else the trade down in the draft to a Tennessee did. Get it can get a plethora of picks and fill some other holes on your roster. And find a way you play RG three this season you see what you have I'm not very hopeful that RG three's gonna have a good year. But you know he's gonna be your starting quarterback for sixteen games maybe he'd find something and he gives you. Us some hope for the future but when you just go back and look at quarterbacks that were taken in the first round of the draft. There's so many does out here and and it's always funny it will begin in this process and this time a year. It's always positive things of people saying righted Carson once is great he's great quarterback Jarrett copies is still on eleven strong arm. It's like we always forget that taking a quarterback in the first round draft has a 5050 proposition. That half of these guys flame mountain around the league in five years even the gets fifty probably isn't even 5050. I mean you go back he's encouraged him Bonner was going to be be good because I sure is yeah let's go back 2014 you had Blake portals Johnny and Ansel Teddy Bridgewater one for three in my mind I year before that you had one guy taken in the first round EJ Manuel. You sound plainly for you before that yet of course the Angela trap and he knew that RG three Ryan Janet hill brand Wein was another Cleveland Browns first round quarterbacks selected one of those is a franchise quarterback that was a good one let's go to 2011 the quarterbacks taken in the first round Cam Newton yet he had all that that he had Jake Locker Blaine Gabbert Christian Ponder. Believe those equality back ups as good a year before that you had Sam Bradford and Tim Tebow in 2010 pay one just got paid eighteen hope you're here man. You before that Stafford who hit and yet Mark Sanchez and Josh Freeman. I just and it could be discerning corner right in the defending Super Bowl champs 2007 draft class JaMarcus Russell Brady Quinn where your first round picks none now let's get you one guy's got traded another first round quarterback typically the browns have with Don I think hearing either. I I'm aging because they always screw this up and they're finally finding a way to go around. Don't play a downer don't play that Podesta is gonna prove you wrong by this he's got to go to draft picks they're gonna play with RG three. Build some other spots cost money mauled a hell out of this thing into the Super Bowl you're an idiot hey. A former Cleveland Browns quarterback is taken a bit of a downturn. And I'd make a noise from him related. That was a weird time that was taken inappropriate Wu there's never an uniformed members of the outside that a dirt doesn't should happen at all times OK have a former quarterback is spiraling downwards and it seems like everybody in the USC is just hang in about we'll talk about those two things next on 1080 of a bill letters look back at 149. The produce days ago while the sun dresses out there today keep those eyes on the road. It. Cleveland Browns quarterback giant Ansel. Now. We were just getting over and becoming Cleveland brown fans and you had to go I said former he doesn't still play forehand that I associate the name was somebody like him it's going to be tied to him forever they did drafted in the first round no not saying he. The old guy does get added a regular guy he's in new direction they're the Cleveland Browns may browns fan this year out get attic I just go it's full on I'm going Cleveland Browns fan yet anywhere we now with a giant in cells story. Legacies god go away is there a level of sympathy. Now not zeroing my sympathy I'm just asking that question don't kill the messenger here grown man making poor decision Diaz said today that story continued to unfold as fur like cassettes and match of us grew up you have to be for Drew Rosenhaus to drop yet that's what happened your rosenhaus officially terminated his representation. Of Jenny men's out. Here's the thing I would I think MTV's real world is an incredibly underrated show that lasted for what. Twelve seasons thirteen the world's still gonna net. Not going to do you hide cameras are MTV airs his reality TV and they don't have the real world mine don't think they do the real world anymore that's the real world Portland. Yet they waited way too long for that I was a big fan of the real world. I've plus to us what the real world back in the day we need be revamping. Of real world. But we need to follow Josh Gordon and Johnny men's known as roommates not a bad call are as dear lord I'd love to watch their parties and there are ongoing shenanigans and sign that house and they trash the rental house in LA DC that it's only cocaine it'll blow away all they were put cigarettes out a carpet there beer bottles broken all over the place as we laugh. The guys clearly have their own demons addiction issues and this is -- and bad. This is gonna and really batting is is going terrible this is gonna end in some sort of drug it you know overdose or some sort of a. As this this and setting down a dark path yet Drew Rosenhaus. Was his agent for like two months and then he'd be decided to cut ties today he told items after last week. That he decided to cut ties them in hopes of him helping the I'd to helping him get the treatment I believe he needs he says I informed him that if he takes the immediate steps I have outlined for him. That I would rescind determination and continue to represent him otherwise determination will become permanent there is a five day window for me. Two recent determination I'm hoping he takes a necessary steps to get his life back so that was lasting an ultimatum last week he said hey you got a weak man figured out a few stormy to be your agent. And clearly John and in -- flipped the bird to a set I don't need your help and now he's officially -- Angeles kind of amazing because -- -- why it's a story why he continues to be story for the TMZ publications of the world it was one of the most well known I mean at that at the height of his Texas say NM Roddy was Johnny football I was a huge story but at what point does he truly go away like Wear him using anecdotal they're not a story anymore it'll get there it always does that guys go down that path that he was barely in the NFL last year right anybody was never in the NFL he sucked the every every and every time he got on the field he was -- as again yet but in Chatham on we'd say former NFL player -- -- and I'd say the former Heisman Trophy winner former tech Zeta Maggie B lesson too easy reads never not to say that you would succumb to the stardom but I know he would I would -- Damon's studio he -- to -- to do is sit down you would first or say. Former Cleveland brown former taxing and MI Maggie and Heisman winner Johnny and them I'd say alcoholic and spoiled rotten kid that's I would and start that there is zero chance anybody listening is assuming that you would actually go the route you're saying never would he spent ten weeks in rehab after his rookie year. As a ten week season it was like three years at any article in the article every businessman's ill spent ten weeks in rehab after his rookie season when he was out at missing their kids go to you know code to Chela. Well like one of those big concert yeah it's one of those hit. And now I guess he was is parting is faceoff they saw him dancing by himself. And nobody was around implicitly drugs or is there. Always doing streams for sure rooms Ecstasy was and so when your in the Coachella valley year for sure doing some showrooms he had this it's like watching a slow motion. Car crash its has been common for a couple Beers and it continues and unfold John and ends on the longer has an agent I doubt anybody will hire him I hope I'd actually I don't even need to say that he will not get another chance in the NFL is in prison or is it death. Where we I don't know I think he goes prison I think there's a drug bust at some point he gets pulled over with a pound of cocaine in his trunk and he goes to jail. He doesn't fall guys for. I don't know when this is jailed not with those family attorneys. Now now now now you that was dad's not speak into many even that one half Walesa kids fighting got Gotti had a run in Mexico in the funny arrests it is acid thrown in jail. You have agreed to come the ice right the ends up by either in a self induced car accident or. I think he's some really hospitalized before eons of imprisoned and yes right away I read there's no he was not in for ten weeks. The yet the article I centrally said that is probably wrong but I think he was supposed to go for ten I literally ripped verbatim reading his article written by ESPN has said Mans cell spent ten weeks and Rihanna after his Richardson no way that's true yes I'm going to happen and he got out really really early there is like oh. Years ago when you exercises demons I guess nine years ago would you how about Ryan leaf. But we've tried before we finally got the ball we stopped caring about Ryan leaf and he was a number two pick in the draft the problem Ryan leaf is. He didn't live in the media climate we have and true terror draws and around very journal social media yeah all we got were sports center hits. Or maybe your local music it's in other news former cougar right Ryan leaf popped for stealing pills he had no we haven't ideally we kind of made a pledge on the show the we're not gonna talk about that nonsense has gentlemen sells no longer an NFL player and I say I'm show after tweet today I had the quotes we get through he said basically. The talented and troubled Johnny and talented. Did you see you waited in the NFL it's not like he was going up their shredding defenses he was awfully playing it was a high that he ever route to a policy are is that I would be shocked if he even got to 200 yards. Yet really legged so we make a lot of jokes. Eight kind it is a sad story from the sense of where he was it is high heat and where he is now. And where ultimately is probably going to go can think of anybody out there right knows somebody has summing up we are highly somebody like that are dealing with these kind of problem attic never usually ends well for people and when you have a kid like that it came to the back. Brownie came from on the affluent family PE just kind of believes he's invincible and I don't wanna read this 'cause I thought it was interesting Bruce Feldman. Of course wrote that the quarterback book member that he had this quote in his book. From an NFL scout about joining me and so this is as he was heading into the draft and this out told him. Me and sells greatest strength is that he truly believes he is unstoppable and he confined his way out of anything camera but his greatest weakness in the one thing that scares the bleep out of people. Is also that he truly believes he is unstoppable but he could find its way out of anything all the drinking or even if he's smoking pot wouldn't scare me. It's the kids total reckless personality and god knows what else that'll lead to. Nothing with that kid would surprise me that was from an NFL scouts yeah before he beat me as he was applying for the and I. Giants twenty years old when the entire world was handed to them on a platter which by the way he already had because his parents were Sony emirates. So I mean that's just some kids can handle it. Other kids can't that's part of the reason that just made his me. I do appreciate LeBron in the whole world and into the per -- -- seen any candidate does this of course is don't do Jeanne thanks but he kept descent pretty squarely on the shoulders and he's Johnny Mann tells an example of guys who it's handed to him and or does he go with it he runs the wrong way let me ask you this would you as much as thirty to thirty on Jon and n.'s Allan ten years I absolutely want to thirty for thirty on him which. Kind of answers the question I asked why does he I don't think I would on an island did you watch the Basel and I know different I don't saw as I did. But. I I don't know that I am. The bossy I could get a time given time if there's time if if at some point he's actually remorseful. And cottages. Has a new media Coppola about it on at some point gets there these days a long way down that hole yet all I get on a couple of years I guarantee somebody tweeting as actor and sprayed at duck Doug Kern. Says that there you are just like Kevin Garnett. I'm are fake tough guy and I'll hook at the Mandela and Jonny was here you'd ask for an autograph you get a picture with like a thumbs. You totally go home rhino you would get daddy you know I would there's no way you have the audacity you Lopes debut book. They have memories already was at a guy like this still. He just he just got popped for he did he but he was a guided turn his life around and and he got in trouble again but he turns you still fighting his demon here but I. Do you feel like it's the same known and has and again I probably didn't think it was the same with -- Koran terms to turn right on okay they haven't done amends Ellie got dumped by his agents and as that story just continues tuneful but we'd pass on along pay in the final hour it's time for. On me cautiously say it is this pitches eight hits. We asked is slowly sane and nervous because I know at some point produces then hit okay you can say it every time and Botox and NBA playoffs Casey hold all join us. And at 215 and talk to us about what the vibe was like in locker math they game 11% to 250 what was our little baseball stuff don't go anywhere follow orders breaks or probable wobbling on any to the.